I would regard a game ban as extremely severe and would hope that the prospect of that happening would make some of these bad posters think twice before committing any toxic or rule breaking post.
If you have someone in society that regularly breaks the rules and laws in an extreme manner (Murder, rape, etc) then you ban them from society by sending them to jail.
The thought is that it would be a deterrent and never have to be used.
Thank you for your highly useful post, your contribution is highly valued.
It may be a good idea to improve your perception and reading skills a little as there is at least one factual error on your post (This char is level 16 as stated next to the avatar picture).
As for not playing the game, how did I manage to get over 12k Ach points ?
I think anyone reading your post will see who the troll is.
Using personal insults is also frowned upon, those and the overall tone of your post is a good example of the sort of thing that needs to be edited out of the forums.
Maybe he plays the game the way he wants to play it? Ahead of the curve isnât the only goal in the game for people. I didnât agree with his ban post but no need for insulting him. Youâre derailing the thread.
So you canât say how you feel about something to do with World of Warcraft unless you get ahead of the curve? Which most people buy with gold btw.
And what that might be? Do quests like itâs a single player game and trying to get people with different opinions banned on forums? This dude is clearly from the left
In that case you donât matter either with your 15k Ach. points.
And you havenât looked up my playing history because you canât. Sure you can see whatâs been done on this account, but thatâs as far as you can go.
Odd that Iâve managed to get all of the Dungeonmaster and Dungeon Hero achievements on this account, I wonder how I got those without playing the game.
So far all youâve demonstrated is that you canât even do some basic research, hell some of the stuff you didnât even need to leave the forum to check out, the info is there on the screen.
FYI Iâve been playing the game since 2004, I donât care of you believe that or not because it doesnât matter.
WoW wasnât even launched in 2004 in Europe. Did you just check up the launch date and blurt that year out without knowing it wasnât launched in Europe in 2004?
arent you the same one who was calling people white supremacists if they didnt agree with black lives matter or disagreed with you? yeah if anyone deserves a ban its you.
I didnât start with playing the EU version, I have family that lives in the States that gifted me a 1 month sub to the game for my birthday that was in Dec 2004.
Yet another poster that canât be bothered to check facts out. No, it wasnât me that called anyone a white supremacist.
Making facts up about someone and then using those to attack and insult them is a pretty low thing to do. All you end up by doing is show yourself up to be rather silly.
Look, I see that you guys are trying to provoke some sort of retaliation and fight with an aim to get the thread locked and removed. This is just the sort of negative, vindictive and childish behaviour I mentioned in my opening post.
You criticise me for allegedly wanting to ban opinions I donât like (I donât) and then you hypocritically start making personal attacks and insults on me because you donât like what I allegedly (and incorrectly) said.
I suppose that itâs in the forum section thatâs labelled âDiscuss World of Warcraftâ as some sort of a joke then ?
Go read the CoC, itâs pretty specific as to what is and isnât allowed.
I was referring to the General Discussion forum, see my comment regarding this above.
The ban on naming and shaming is for in game actions, thereâs
no need to name and shame for forum activity as itâs there for everyone to see.
No, thatâs called Anarchy, Mob rule isnât part of democracy. You can disagree with someone without having to resort to insults, threats and bad language. Everyone has a right to speak out about something they disagree with or have issues with, they donât have a right to make personal insults or threats against someone they disagree with.
As for refunding money. Do you expect to get a refund for car and road tax, car expenses etc. of you get banned from driving ? But any compensation isnât the discussion point here and not really relevant. Maybe you can start your own thread regarding this.
I agree, but disrespect shouldnât be the automatic alternative.
Thatâs nice, but⌠I remember once, I wasnât writing a lot on the forum at that time. I was too busy in the game.
And that day, I had a suggestion to make about druids. So I made it, in the druid forum. It was just a suggestion, I even remember what it was about.
And something like 4 days later, I logged in the forums to see if there were any comments. But I found that I had a forum suspension of maybe 1 or 2 days ? I donât recall the duration because by the time I came back it was already over.
So, I checked my mail to see if there was anything, and there was nothing explaining the reasonning. Just a notification.
To this day, I still donât know what happened.
My guess is that my suggestion was disliked by the community (either druids or non-druids) and that it got flagged multiple times, triggering the process of forum suspension.
BTW, the idea was about a rework of predatory swiftness, blood talons and their synergies with combo points and finishers.
Usually, when i speak with people like you, i loose very fast my temper. But today youâre lucky. Iâm in a good mood. So, letâs recapitulate:
You said:
And i replied with :
ThenâŚyou changed into:
Now i ask you nicely and polite:
How we get from âcontroversial comments that might upset, offend or make someone angryâ to " insults, threats and bad language" ? Can you see the difference between these two and can you realise how you changed the topic just to fit your stupid argument?
And thatâs why, my little childish friend, i dislike people like you. You say one thing and then the next moment you change your entire idea to another thing just to fit your argument. You know how this is called?
And to make you understand: controversial doesnât mean direct insult. You changed the meaning of the words because you couldnât bring a better argument.
Letâs do this: try again.
Exactly this type of behaviour i mentioned in my endingâŚand here we go againâŚwith people like you, this is a never ending story.
Actually, your example was bad. You asked in game ban for actions done in forum, not in game. Itâs like i would take your car, because you as pedestrian crossed on red light. That is a more suitable example. As i saidâŚtry again.
So, it doesnât matter if a player spent thousands in a game and then you ban him for a thing done in another platform? Just ban everyone âŚbecause you just can. Right? Lucky that youâre not the owner of Blizzard. You would be bankrupt with this mentality. Do you think people would flock to your game, knowing that any mistake they do can lead to perma-ban? Rethink your marketing strategyâŚ
MateâŚplease STOP. You embarrass yourself and you add fuel. Better mind your business. Clearly itâs too late, youâre tired, you didnât slept all night. Take a nap and come later with a fresh mind to find better arguments.
Iâm so glad youâre not getting angry, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, Truth is Iâm not bothered whether you get angry or not, I donât care.
I donât care whether you like me or not either. I donât really like your patronising and insulting post but whatever.
I havenât changed anything in my posts, only edits that are done are to correct typos and spelling.
A well written and formatted post isnât an opinion.
Itâs perfectly possible to disagree and discuss any subject without being or making controversial comments. The subject matter may be controversial but thatâs not what I was referring to.
Iâm not going to stop, so deal with it.
Again here we have a poster thatâs expressed their opinion (as they have every right to do) but feels that they need to also throw in a few personal insults and lies to try and make their argument.
Actually, respect is due. Not earned. You may lose respect, in your mind, toward someone, but when itâs time to discuss with him or express your feelings, respect is still due.
People can make you lose their mind, because how they behave, and not letting them push you out of the line can be difficult sometimes. But itâs best for you and the conversation to not let this happen. Iâll even go further, itâs best for you, even in a real life face-to-face context to not let anyone push you out of the line.
Some people, even in real life, are trying to push you out of the line, on purpose. For them, itâs not a debate, itâs not a conversation where they seek the truth, the best answer, the best decision, etc. For them, itâs a matter of power. They want to know that, if they want, they can push you out of the line. They want to know that they have some control over you.
Itâs best for you to still show respect, even to this kind of person.
Stop showing respect, call people names or shame them and the conversation is dead (and the relation is dead). It cannot go any further because you and people you interact with are no longer in a position where you will focus on the discussion. Instead, you will focus on the bad behavior and defend against it.
By showing respect at all time, you are not the one who breaks the conversation or relationship. You also disable the nasty manipulators who want power over you. Itâs really the best for you and for the conversation.
If you think that at some point, the conversation is dead, because you start to wonder âhow can I discuss with these people who discard logical statements, ignore laws, etcâŚâ and basically you feel that there is nothing that can help your point of view to be understood in that context/environment, the best for you is to ignore them. Leave them in their wrong. Donât say a word, just leave the conversation. No shaming. That would serve no purpose, except showing everyone that some dude managed to push you out of the lines.
Other than that⌠People can disagree with you and not provide proofs or reasoning. âI donât like itâ is a valid reason for disagreeing with something.