Not sure I agree with this, nice idea in theory but in practice people would abuse the kick option. While immediate moderation is left to posters, we will always have this problem.
It is automated so x number of flags makes the post hidden I believe, the moderators come in later and look at flagged posts, they then decide to either unflag it if no rules broken, remove the post, or take silence/ban actions.
It is impossible to moderate the forums to the extent where there is a moderator actually in every thread and watching each discussion, so yes a lot of moderation is left to the posters using the flag system and I do agree and have debated this many times, the flag system is sometimes abused.
However, I will argue with people who say âwe are not allowed to express our viewsâ because this is untrue. You can express your views and as long as you remain civil and polite, then there should never be an issue.
Again this isnât a great option due to how it works at present, if somebody switches to an alt, the alt is not on my ignore list, same if they have another account and switch to this.
I like the idea of the ignore system, I just donât think it works as well as intended
Thatâs one solution but itâs bit of a âbury your head in the sandâ option.
My ignore list is empty because I donât want to silence anyone and even the most obnoxious posters will sometimes have a valid point that I would always like to see and consider.
Topics like Religion , Politics and Sexuality are always going to be a minefield as a lot of people will get emotionally charged over the subject and start getting angry, which usually leads to saying or doing something that later youâll regret.
I believe that no matter how vile or horrible someone is, somewhere deep inside their consciousness and psyche there will be a glimmer of good that is just waiting for an opportunity to make itself known, by ignoring that person youâre denying them that opportunity, albeit in a small way.
Agreed! There is also the issue that if someone quotes to person you put on ignore you see what they said anyway instead of the [content not available] option.
I almost never ignored anyone either.
the only exceptions is a certain well known resident (forum) troll who consistently simps for Blizzard on everything they do wrong and any internet tough guy who instead of arguing a different opinion, tries to pick a fight (baiting, name-calling etc).
If you can guess the gist what someone will have said on their post by just seeing â1 Hidden replyâ line, then they probably deserved it.
Yeah well not everyone can think objectively. And to be honest I donât blame the mass hysteria that comes over a difference of opinions. These people are taught to act like this. They think itâs their personal duty and everyone elseâs to shut down different opinions. Itâs not but not like you can change their minds.
Regardless, I suspect the moderator job is tougher than I originally imagined, of course if they bother to do it. The mods and GMs can be just as superficial as the above mentioned people and I think we just saw an example of that last week.
This is my view as well, my ignore list is very small because even if I disagree with someone in one topic, it doesnât mean I will in another, even if their expression gets my back up a bit. Iâve had direct examples of this where in topics like diversity etc. myself and another poster iâve exchanged with a few times are at different poles and their expression was not really what iâd call to my tastes, however on other topics like RP and lore weâve agreed and exchanged some really nice posts.
I save ignore for when it appears across topics that some potential poster and myself donât appear to have productive/constructive exchanges on a basis that appears to be more personal rather than related to the topic and I largely do that to stop myself replying. I try to avoid it where possible however because iâd like to think I try for an olive branch approach most times, but I will admit sometimes I just donât have that in me depending on the nature of the altercation and then thats when I will utilise ignore.
Iâve already explained my reasoning for that several times. Please do try and keep up with things and read the whole thread before throwing out comments like that.
They do have a tough job though as they get 100s of flags a day and need to read every flagged post and make a decision as to whether it broke the rules as well as intervening in the threads that are being flagged a lot and read through all that to decide if it needs closing and if bans are going out.
This is why we arenât allowed an off topic section. We are too badly behaved in the EU lol.
Eh? Look on mmo-champion and their off-topic section. Itâs all basically filled with posters who are all âRAAHHHHHHHHH, I HATE TRUMPâ, mostly americans. Then they say people are russians being paid to argue on mmo-champion in a disinformation campaign, lmfao. And they actually believe it.
I know you are talking about repeated offenders. But the offenses as you stated:
Are all very subjective. People are going to get upset, offended or angry at different things, while others merely shrug them off or view them as jokes.
In these times, it would surprise me if we would never see an instance where someone isnât offended about someone defending Sylvanasâ actions or thinking that anyone who sided with Saurfang instead of Sylvanas must be because of a want for patriarchy and thefore the hatred of women.
While most of us would see such connections as absurd ramblings, it still doesnât discount that someone has been either hurt or offended, or been made angry.
In which case, if a person on different threads defends Sylvanas and her actions and comes with reasonable arguments for and against. Should that person really do so, risking years of time- and monetary investment?
I would not think that to be fair.
And if you think my example is outlandish and exaggerated, just remember that none of us sets the general standards for what is allowed and not allowed. Usually that belongs to the most offended and vocal minority.
Heck, it might even be a weapon that ends up being used against you.
Using your own words as an example, advocating that all victims of sexual abuse are liars & that my country is to quote you âfull of gaysâ because I disagreed on your statement that women canât be sexually abused anywhere other than âthe frontâ, is infact NOT democracy.
Itâs you just being wrong. And violating the CoC. Which you seem to do on a daily basis.
False. The problem arises when again to like Xyao, using your own words as an example, start to deliberatly insult groups of people with words and phrases both not allowed on these forums, but in many countries are classified directly as hate speech.
Which you yourself have done numerous times lately. That isnât again âreports and slander for having the wrong opinionâ, its you not being civil & violating rules you agreed to adhere to when first posting.
This shouldnât be rocket science, most of us have diffrent opinions on many things, but it all comes down to how you express yourself, and Blizzard also has very firm and plain rules on what is and isnt allowed. If you donât agree with that, you can seek out a forum that doesnt have those rules.
I understand what you say but again I donât entirely agree. Blizzard set the standards for what is allowed or not and as long as we follow the standards they set, then all should be allowed to have a view, whether this is popular or not.
I do agree though that the flag system can be and is abused, used to âshut people upâ when you donât like their view, this for me is wrong.
I still say we need the flag system or something similar to highlight when posts do go against the CoC, whether we agree with the codes or not they are there to regulate use of the forums.
I still say that we can debate within these regulations.
Simply a clarification that many of these posters who complain about âbeing shut downâ has in a majority of their posts activly violated most if not all of the forums posting rules.
They are hardly as innocent as they want to claim to be.
