its pretty depressing really that people are so quick to be judge jury and executioner based only on an accusation. The irony is i myself am a victim and someone turned it into me just hating women and dismissed my experience entirely (very 2020)
No, I did not dismiss your experience one single bit and kudos for turning it into something I have never said.
You don’t even seem to understand that
is something similar alot of the women face when they actually do report it. It’s either not being taken serious or just dismissed. You should know better if you’ve had that experience.
Men can absolutely be victims, and they should also be taken serious. But according to some of these posters here, unless theres a conviction, nothing happened. So according to your posts, no one should have taken you serious either before the conviction. Mirrors sucks, don’t they?
thats a boldface lie and you know it!! show me where in the past 3 years where a woman was told by the cops that women cant be victims of sexual assault or were not believed. thats BS, the entire government itself (atleast in the US) is jumping on the whole me too movement so thats a fat lie that women are not believed, i mean this thread can attest to that fact that people always take a woman’s side no matter what.
Ok, i’m done with you, reading is hard for you it seems. I NEVER said that women were told they can’t be victims of sexual assualt. Alot of women still are not believed, those are facts. The whole movement is a direct result of that. But hey, keep sticking your head in the sand if that makes you feel better.
by who exactly? because im just not seeing it anywhere at all. Quite the opposite in fact, all i see is people believing every single word and even when it proven to be a lie people STILL believe them and harass the accused.
And to address your earlier response i didnt fully flesh, out its not the same for me, the police didnt even do an investigation at all they 100% dismissed my report and nothing ever came of it. show me a case where that has happened in the past 5 years even if the victim is a woman.
I would love to know who these people who are not believing a woman is because i cannot find any.
That is where you did actually say it.
But regardless look up Terry Crews when he came out as a victim and he literally got laughed at by a whole room.
So even there it is far worse for men right now trying to come forward with what happened to them.
So according to some of the posters here, no sexual assault ever happened to you, because no one was convicted. How does that make you feel?
Reading this thread alone is enough proof that alot of people don’t believe the women.
How about you actually go look up the statistics of sexual assault, how many police reports are filed and how many actually are convicted.
Stop trying to put words in my mouth, I did not say that. Cases being dismissed =/= being told women can’t be victims of sexual assault.
Your intentionally being obtuse, I said TAKE ACCUSATIONS SERIOUSLY BUT DON’T BLINDLY BELIEVE EVERY WORD!!! big difference than what happened to me where not a soul believe me except my friend and my mother and my brother.
if you think saying you should not believe accusations as fact till there is proof as not believing women then your either blind or willfully ignorant or maybe both.
You can take an accusation seriously and do an investigation without blindly believing every word as fact. I suggest you learn that lesson.
Those words you use means that or used to mean that at least.
You are jumping to conclusions yourself so do not come here and try to play innocent of that.
You see he even added a OR in the wording and you jumped on the first part and only focused on that part.
So STOP trying to put words in his mouth.
Taking accusations seriously and still being sceptical can go hand in hand.
Being sceptical does not mean you dismiss what the other person feel or think.
But you really should look into Johnny Deep and Amber Heard and you might learn something about the right and wrong way to do something.
Oh my God. It’s almost like context matters. In his case he wasn’t believed because he was a man and as such, that doesn’t happen to them. The equal part to that is, women can’t be victims of sexual assault, just because they are women. And that is something I have never said.
And ofcourse I would respond to that part of the sentence, because that’s the only relevant part here. And directly quoting someone is now putting words in his mouth? Welcome to the wow forums I suppose.
Alot of people here aren’t sceptical, they outright dismiss the accusation. That is whole freaking point.
Have a wonderfull day.
You dismissed the sentence to focus on words you know CONTEXT matters.
It is funny how it is ok for you to ignore context ignore part of what someone say yet you expect other people to not do that to you.
Have you heard the saying do to others as you want others to do to you?
This is false also as the equal to that would be Women not being BELIEVED because they are women.
That it “does not” happen to men has to do with many things but it is not what you should have focused on as that is the society that thinks because men must be manly.
But it also comes from old laws luckily they no longer exist but it lingers around still, as it is not that long ago it got changed.
But hey ignore all the other factors for that just focus on one thing and ignore the rest of sentences because they do not fit what you say.
Capt Context would be ashamed.
Time to ignore people like you, you’re just here to argue for the sake of it. Have a wonderfull Sunday.
I should have ignored you but intead i tried to give you something to think about.
Clearly it was the right thing. Have a nice sunday.
Fact is men don’t get believed as much as women, women get believed instantly a lot of the time. Men get laughed at, judged, they think “How can a masculine man get sexually abused”.
You do know probably a lot of men have been sexually assaulted but are too scared to come forward, so don’t even bother with statistics. But yeah, women do go through it more.
Fact is you can’t know the truth unless you get solid concrete proof, not something that’s come out of someones mouth, that’s not proof at all.
Wut.
There was a girl in my school way back, below age of 15, whom was recorded doing sexual stuff and the guy who recorded it spread it in the school. People attacked her over it, not the guy who spread it even though he literally spread what is considered cp. They called her disgusting, s-word(lol it’s censored) and so on.
Why am I not surprised that during this the whole “men don’t get believed when reporting sexual assault”.
So what? Entirely different issue. A very real problem but it has literally nothing to do with this. This is just whataboutism “well nobody believes X so why should we believe Y?” What a progressive mindset.
And as for the “women are always believed” I guess this is why the conviction rate for sexual assault sits at a colossal 1.7% yeah? So women are always believed and yet in 98.3% of cases where they report being sexually assaulted the person they’re accusing isn’t convicted.
So what the police say “we believe you but we’re not going to do anything about it” or what?
Or is it a betrayal of how freaking hard it is to get a conviction for SA, and yet people here still entertain the absurd delusions that men are constantly being sent to jail because random women accuse them of SA even though it’s a false accusation? Because if that’s true, why is the conviction rate so low?
People need to look at the actual stats rather than use Twitter to dictate their reality.
Dude they were kids! Not condoning that behavior at all. When it comes to grown adults it’s different.
Where do you get your so called stats, probably some random link spread around on FB.
Can you also please link the information to support what you describe as fact?
Don’t need to link anything, we’re on a thread where Swifty got screwed over for that exact situation, with no solid proof.