Game is good, classes feel really bad

how about a duel 1v1 i play druid you play druid too?

What does duels have to do with anything you’ve said? Lmao.

dont have balls?
you said you didnt /. i want to prove myself with a real gamplay not chat
or your just a role players with a female nelf?

classes really feel bad compared to other mmos on wow’s level. all casters are basically the same. none of the melee dps classes feel unique . i know people think it was better back then but no, wotlk has the same issue maybe not this much but it does have. i love wow but none of the classes have fun gameplay. neither in wotlk nor in retail. in wotlk it’s 2 skill per class(with some exceptions) in retail it’s the same playstyle with different visuals. wow needs a big change on class designs and i think they’re aware of that problem maybe even tried to do it with df changes but failed.

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Are you on drugs or something?

imagine how scared you are that you are saying not you didnt play druid before me but in the other hand you dont have enough balls to come into the game and see my druid or duel me

Bruh, you’re making no sense at all.

OFC I DO
the problem is that retards like you only can chat and be a keyboard warrior but when they want to prove their words with their skill and game play they run

That sounds more like you rn.

come lets go in the game man.
i have characters on silvermoon too
lets just duel or see who is better at playing druid in the game

You need to lay off the drugs.

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AND YOU NEED TO BE MALE AND STOP ((changing)) THE SUBJECT

YOU SAID I DIDNT SO I SAID LETS SEE IN THE GAME BUT YOUR A COWARD THATS WHY YOU ONLY CAN TALK HERE :rofl:

Last time I left bear form when I was tanking was when I accidentally fatfingered a heal that made me go caster form and I instantly died.

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thats what im talking about.
your not good at playing druid thats why it happened to you
im just saying im better than you you are saying no and im saying lets see in the game but you dont have balls enough to see my game play

You clearly have no clue. And you’re going on ignore.

just go find beautiful tmogs for your female druid and do your role play kid
you didnt have some good druid player around you in your life

But I of all people do know. And so do you. But I think we’re talking a bit past each other here, and I’ll get to that in the end.

Okay, here’s the problem: Each of these shapeshift forms directly corresponds with a single specialization. If I am Guardian I am spending nearly 100% of my time in Bear Form to mitigate damage because mitigating damage is what I do. The extent of my shapeshifting is basically shifting out to move to the next pack because I can’t be mounted in Bear Form.

There is no reason for a Guardian Druid to go Cat Form. It’s just a plain bad idea. There is no reason for Guardian Druid to go Moonkin Form. It’s just a plain bad idea. Except for that Mage Tower thing, but that’s… really out there. It’s a tank fight where nothing is attacking you and you can’t melee the target. Any reason to even take Moonkin spells is that it gatekeeps the extended melee range.

For Feral, you don’t want to leave Cat Form. You don’t need to, either. You don’t need to for dispels or for resurrections, etc. The only case where you need to is if you want to hard-cast CC, which in PvE you never do. I am not aware of what Druids might be doing on Raszageth though, but if that’s the extent of our examples… that’s not enough.

In PvP it happens that you need to go into Bear Form, but this very quickly turns into a downward spiral. Without the Guardian Druid mastery your healer will run OOM trying to heal your massive health pool and the damage you take is practically unchanged because so much damage in PvP is bleed or elemental. And if you can’t get out fast you lose the game due to the outrageously low damage you deal. It’s not useless to do it, and I do it, but it’s nothing like in WotLK or tBC where I would use Bear Form for crowd control or just sit in it for up to a minute because it was the best counter to my opponent’s strategy to do so.

Moonkins are the same thing. If you’re leaving Moonkin form you’re probably making a mistake. Travel Form occassionally makes sense, but that’s about it.

The only Druid I am aware of that uses shapeshifting in an interesting way is Restoration.

Indeed, let’s not mention that because it’s really not shapeshifting, as in the verb. It is the state of being shapeshifted. There really is nothing preventing a feral druid from literally never leaving Cat Form for a whole dungeon. You go into Cat Form before it begins and you stay in it for 30 minutes and that’s it.

Is that shapeshifting? Well… that’s up for interpretation I suppose, but from where I’m standing it feels like being a rogue on four legs.

Then there’s the… psuedoshiftng. Not sure what to call this, but it’s a form of shapeshifting where you don’t make an active choice to click a form, but instead using a spell off the GCD shapeshifts you. So the most optimal way to get into Cat Form is not pressing Cat Form, it’s actually pressing Tiger’s Fury.

There’s a reason Druids had 3 specs and one of them blended Bear and Cat. Splitting these two destroyed both, and that’s the reason I’m a mage today, and I’m still salty. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Typhoon - Usable in all shapeshift forms.
Ursol´s Vortex - Usable in all shapeshift forms.
Stampeding Roar - the tooltip when you mouse over the ability says “switch into bear form to…” but once the ability is on your action bars it no longer says that and you can use that in any form.

Soothe - Usable in all shapeshift forms…
Mark of the Wild - Usable in all shapeshift forms…
Moonfire - talents can make it usable in all shapeshift forms… [this kind of thing I am okay with personally.]
Renewal - Usable in all shapeshift forms… Used to be the only spell in the current list that behaved like that… How far we have sunk!

Regrowth - Usable in moonkin form…
Hibernate - Usable in all shapeshift forms…
Tiger Dash - shapeshift and sprint is under one button by default…
Prowl - shapeshift and stealth is under one button by default
Tiger Fury - damage increase and shapeshift under one button…

Remove Corruption - Usable in all shapeshift forms.
Mass Entanglement - Usable in all shapeshift forms.
Mighty Bash - Usable in all shapeshift forms.

I could go on… But you get the point.

As you can see, convenience has destroyed class fantasy and class identity.

As an aside, in Dragonflight, a shadow priest can cast all holy spells in Shadowform as well.

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word of wisdom

thanks mate

Also it is crazy to think that the community has better ideas than the creative team of wow. I am talking about Hardcore Classic and so many addons. It shows the luck of creativity and vision from current people that run the show.