Game isnt that great for casual players anymore

how do you define casual anyway?

Low mythic+ keys are casual content too. It’s not hard to do a +7 in time. Or +10 late in the patch.

Casual player does not mean bad player.

Bad players are just that - bad. Even if they grind 12 hours per day for useless achievements and 0,00001% drop rate items.

Gear ilvl should be proportional to the difficulty of content. It also allows for a progression system.

Normal > Heroic > Mythic
Combatant > Challenger > Rival > Duelist > Glad
etc.

World Quests don’t have any progression system, and the ilvl you get from WQs makes the future WQs trivial.

Why do you need mythic or heroic gear if you don’t do content that warrants it?

I’m sorry, but i bet raiding still is mostly “difficult” for all but the very top players only for maybe half the group, the rest just tries to not stand in the fire or follows their addon…

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In what way have they been generalised casual players don’t care for progression and if you’re incapable of dedicating times on certain days for progression you should stick to LFR or Normal.

Because at that point you’re only hindering others willing to spend more time on the game to advance in the current content you honestly sound like a child, please elaborate if you’re a casual player doing mythic progress or heroic progress and dedicating 3 days a week to a raid roaster because if you aint you’re casual through and through.

Your generalisiing we dont care for progresion tok start with.

And I told many times, why. I am not gonna repeat my self.

Just because I sometimes run M+ does not make me not a casual player.

ANd I never mentioned heroic and mythic raids.

My whole problem is welfare gear is given out making my effort, and casual players can put in as much effort too, about the way this thing goes because M6 is rendered useless soon…

Blergh.

But your playstyle isn’t rewarding because you’re not doing end content progression so what exactly are you wanting 220 ilvl items from WQs?

People are not asking mythic or heroic gear, just a bit better rewards that feel rewarding. Now that we have Torghast (that doesn’t drop gear itself) people also need to be able to upgrade their gear to be able to go on higher layers, especially when twisting corridors comes out.

Progression system for world quest would be fun though!

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Sorry to burst your bubble M+ is hardly hardcore its pretty casual when you can run keys easily if you have a dedicated team of people you comm with.

So you’re pretty casual in my books, Also M+ is a well known fact was the staple point of gearing before the raid came out so your points make no sense its still a good requirment for people wanting to climb into heroic raiding off the bat.

You are being ignorant, Bud.

No I’m just not pandering to someone that wants everything place on a silver platter because they feel insignificant on a game which by the way is a pretty weak minded thought process to even have.

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Bro torghast has been nerfed to the ground… people can do layer 8 with base ILVL180 also twisting corridors is for people who aint casual thats the whole point lmao

they are able to get better gear, just run mythics and raids. and if you don’t, why do you need to upgrade your legendary?

yea…and to get base level 180, how do i get there if I can’t get it in torghast or wq?
Bit of a problem if solo content gets gated behind group content…

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No, You’re ignoring fundementals.

Cause the fundemental is there;'s a double bladed CUT for people on content that previously, they could get some sence of progression in. That even accounted for M2+.

You’re ignorant and keep talking how it should be all about heroic raiding and mythic raiding when thats not even discussed.

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I’m casual and have 190ish ilevel on both characters - rando BGs, AH and world boss drops. Not high but not too lame.

I think the game is still casual friendly, but I agree that Torghast could offer more than soul ash as rewards. Gear would be a great idea :+1:t2:

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you really don’t get it, it’s not about “need”, we want to also see progress and do the content we CAN do, now we will start getting gearblocked in higher torghast for example, which was solo content.

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Clearly you’re beyond understanding anything but your own thought process so I’ll eave you to stay in your bubble.

Clearly you dont want to understand stuff, so why do you just not post and play your game?

higher layers are the same difficulty as M+, according to the guys who designed the game. so if you’re skilled enough to do it, what prevents you from joining some m0 farm runs?

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The reason torg doesn’t offer more soul ash is because its time gated to allowing you to upgrade your leggos once a week by giving more its making the legendary sparse in progressive upgrading and making them churn into another item that can be replaced instantly with another legendary because you’ve been given 2000 soul ash each week which makes it feel and become less legendary in all aspects.