Gdkp & rmt

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Yes, of course, how could I forget that I give my friends tens or even hundreds of thousands of gold every time they need to repair or buy a few flasks. :rofl:

And “everyone” knows that Blizzard can´t possibly see the difference between someone in teh same guild /B-net friends or regularly playing together and a completely random person that has never been interacted with before in the history of the account, much less track the activity of the person “gifting” such sums to be doing it on a regular basis :rofl:

There are millions of shades and colors between pure white and vantablack, I recommend you consider acknowledging their existence :beers:

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I suggest you do the same.

You can give out gold to people just because you feel like it, i’ve seen dozens and dozens give out gold to streamers in game without having any prior interaction with them for example.

And you can be in the same guild as a RMT’er, organize it outside the game and do the trade.

By your definition, the first example should be banned and the second shouldn’t, as you mentioned, not everything is black and white, and that is precisely why your suggestion is idiotic.

You literally countered yourself within two posts.
Your suggestion is only good until it happens to you, then it’s blizzard’s fault for clearly not knowing you’re a very legit player amirite.

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Not at all, because IMO If you know that you´re in the same guild as an RMTer, which aour example assumes, you´re already part of the problem yourself. Becasue simply by continuing to play with them you are already effectively saying “I´m ok with what you´re doing”, which makes you complicit in their activity.

You can try to justify RMT any way you want, that will change nothing about my opinion that all accounts that ever engaged in it should be permanently deleted and all the gold removed no matter, who´s account it´s currently on.

The only thing I have to “fear”, as well as everyone I´ve played with over the past 18 years, is the loss of some if the illicitly traded gold that was unnecessarily inflating the economy and thereby found it´s way onto our accounts through the AH… good riddance to it.

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When did I ever try to justify RMT ?
Seems to me you’re grasping at straws because you can’t admit your suggestion is extremely flawed.

Also, I gave a very clear example of RMT that wouldn’t be assumed to be one by your very own words:

You’re trying to distort it into something completely different, my examples were following your very own logic and looked at from blizzard’s point of view.
You may know you’re in the same guild as a RMT’er, but how would blizzard know ? That’s what I am putting into question here, you can’t go willy nilly banning people without appeals or proof, if not banning bots is a major problem, banning real players is an equally major one.

I think we both agree that RMT and botting ruins the game, especially classic, I just don’t agree with your scorched earth ideology.

I have suggested in some other post something similar so I won’t really repeat myself, but Blizzard can definetely implement in-game roadblocks to demotivate botting and therefore a huge chunk of RMT market as a whole, banning random people based on “maybes” isn’t the solution.

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Only if one assumes them to be completely incompetent and diesnt know what information is readily available in Atlastools (the Interface GMs use to interact with players, at least up until a few years ago)… If they can tell you verbatim every word you typed in chat in teh last 90 days down to the second, who you were in a group with, when, and what you were doing together, etc, it´s not exaxctly a logical stretch to “assume” that they also know every gold transaction you were involved with in the same timeframe and with whom…

Well, actually, they absolutely could if they wanted to, because you do not “own” anything here, or have and “rights”… you pay for the privelege to use their service as long as they see fit, subject to change at any time and for any reason they see fit, period. But that is jsut the legal side of it, without considering the possible damagte to he game.

Just as I have explained elsewhere in more depth than most players will ever read why Botting is not anywhere near as cut and dry a subject as most players assume… I don´t expect you to search for it, just as you hopefully don´t expect me to search for yours :beers:

Yes, on this we agree. But IMO the earth has long been burned to a crisp and thoroughly salted, by the players themselves that engaged in these activites. THe only way to quell it at this point is with radical measures. I did not at any point say nor imply that they would be without collateral damage…

but if a fox is in the henhouse eating chickens, is the chicken it´s already got in it´s mouth really the main concern, or the ones still alive cowering in the corner? :beers:

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The game is dead the moment people play just to please their ultra materialistic anxiety.

Call it World of Zombies.

It is a MMORPG, but if these Zombies could, it would turned into a SOLORMT game instead.

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Cool, and we will continue to report you for breaking the rules lol. nice to know that your gonna get banned.

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It is funny how game aimed to bring people together and give them joy became game of loneliness and 2nd work after work

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Its still not viable with that insane inflation and goldbuying.

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Or not
Retail is failing badly, sub number probably became complete disaster, so blizzard rushed to make this anniversary fresh in a week.
They aren’t even gonna ban bots because they increase sub number statistic. Almost 0 chances they gonna ban hidden gdkp.

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True. You have more chances to get banned for doing nothing or reporting bots than actually botting, rmt, gdkp

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No dont blame blizz for this ok its not their choice not even slightly.
Ppl want it easy.

Did blizzard choose that ? NO people did that.

As for banning frstly blizz do ban waves

secondly why should they, the gold buisness would crash if ppl stopped buying it.

That in turn would result in less bots and better economy.

There is a guy in asia getting death threats bc hes been reporting bots by following them and seeing what theyre doing.

Turns out there is a bot mafia over there running 16 bots person and thats who hes been reporting on.

Now tell me thats blizzard please …

All blizzard can rly do is respond to it as a company and thats the raw truth.

The post you made is total nonsense, why bc youbsay gdkp is a legit way to make gold, the game was never meant to be infested with cheaters that use gdkp or bots that steal from actual players tobthen sell them gold they should have been able to earn themselves naturally wity proffesions.

Ok eg inc, you get only 2 stacks of copper ore in the ah the demand os huge so they sell for 200g each. 6 mnths pass 2 syscks of copper ore will drop down from 200g to roughly 3g each ill be nice and say top end 20g maximum.

This happens bc we have bots competing with legit players for proff mats its also destroyed thr copper economy bc theres too much now so its lister then relisted and so on.

The issue is lazy players who want it all with no effort.

Blizz amp up proffs across the board and then 8 mnthsblater we got ppl boohooing that its too hard … seriously WHAT ?

Not to mention the risk players take when buying a boost with rmt then giving their acc to said booster password and all and ofc it opens them up to theft of cash from their bank should their card details be stolen.

I did a full explanitory post on this on the 23rd so.i wo t do it again butbsuffice to say when you give your deets to a site they will keep them for a certain amount of time via cookies that can be stolen.or the site/ buisness is targetted for attack.

The end of the argument here is dont buy gold from external sites.

You dont know if your being redirected to a fake or if the site is compromised, so dont use them !!!

Scan ur pc mac or w/e you use regularly if like me you dip your toes in dark waters you need to vigilant, hackers, identity theives, and con men WILL take you for what your worth.

Its even worse if the person stealing from you knows what they’re doing and isn’t some kid who bought a premade hack tool off a threat group.

Which btw is doable, they actually have mnthly subs for their gear.

I’ll re iterate again stop buying gold from external sites get ur chara … and use it to make gold ingame its not even hard…

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Retail nearly died in Shadowlands but now it’s doing fine as the most popular version :slight_smile:

Anniversary is just sub number bait from unsubbed people but also those playing any other version. If anyone logged just once out of curiosity they will be counted multiple times as MAU and given to investors.

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Because blizzard did everything possible to kill classic wow?

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Like what? they made SoD that started really high and is still going, Cata lives and now MoP people are hyped hard. Not to mention Anniversary with TBC and onward. They are covering all options outside some big Classic+.

Shadowlands actually ended with some key people getting fired, including main “storyteller”.

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Classic andys challenge to not mention Retail at any given opportunity (nightmare difficulty)

How come that Classic andy let Retail live rent free in their head while retail andys are actually minding their own business not caring about classic at all?

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Or maybe because they actually did some huge changes in case you missed it.

-removal of borrowed power.

-return of talent trees.

-Proffessions are important again.

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They just need ban every goldseller and goldbuyer and all the bots. And that will pretty much fix game in long term.

But they wont because it would hurt them in short-mid term and there is not a person that would take resposibility for it, or none who is real chad is working in Blizzard anymore.

Hope they actually had that chad who achieved the biggest ban of cheating players in Diablo. Were great times. Wow classic Era needs that too.

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I dont care about retail andies at all for example. The most moneys are needed to keep retail developers and retail development. So ofc they need maintain the main playerbase there.
I would just wish that you brought all the sweatlords playerbase from era to real competitive gaming in retail. What is actually not happening, unfortunately.

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The game is dead and i mean retail .
Last 5 expansion at least and we are talking about 10 years we have been thrown same content over and over…
Raids ?
3 raids per expansion with 8 bosses and that’s all. Nothing new nothing amazing like older expansion …classic -tbc and wotlk had double amount of raids bosses… So the raid environment is cutted in half .

Mythic + ?? the same 8 dungeon with 3 or 4 bosses …nothing amazing a 20 min fast encounter even now that i’m doing 10x… non creative and i doubt someone will keep doing the same 8 dungeon for an entire expansion just the get with every season a new reset on gear…

World content the same …nothing amazing with just some world quest that in the past 2 month i rarrely see anyone doing them other than perhaps the w-boss and that all …(Even the W-boss lootable is pathetic that doesn’t come to classic tbc were bosses actually dropping something useful .

Yday i counted more people i Lf classic , just alliance side compared with the total amount of player in lf of mythic+… was quite funny .

Either way they added classic …classic cataclysm and many more to just keep up the playerbase because they know that retail doesn’t bring any new players and they at least wanna keep the older ones …

9% raiding guild in comparasion with Wotlk …just gonna leave this here…