Get rid of mythic plus depletion system for the millionth time please

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if im correct , you mean every key have a 3 charge of depletion immunity ? if yes thats actually a good system , good point.

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Depletion is the only thing stopping inflation from happening.

Because while you could downgrade your key, nobody will. Everyone will try the maximum they can over and over again until they time it, and repeat.

The impact this has on an individual player is not noticeable. But it does have an impact on the general population of key levels. What this means is that if you were to plot a graph of key levels vs. players you would get a nice gausian curve, with a mean at some key level.

And that can only happen if you got depletes. Because if you don’t, what will happen is that almost everyone will be sitting in +10 keys (because eventually everyone manages to get lucky with a group and time things), and nobody in the ranges below that.

This would be bad for lower keys. However, this impact is greatly diminished in higher keys. Because in those keys the required teamwork implies that to time it, you need the individual skills to do it. So an individual player could never get “lucky” and get carried and he would remain at the RIO he belongs to be in.

You can imagine a bit more clearly what the consequences are if you think about PvP.

In PvP you win/loose rating. Imagine for a minute that you only won rating. Never lost. Well in the end, everyone would be 1800. Nobody would be lower than that, regardless of personal skill and whoever did have a lower rating than that would find himself with nobody to play with, regardless of his personal skill level.

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Yes. Basically 3 tries. The number of charges can of course be discussed.

You can also wonder why runs, lets say, less than 10% over the timer is downgraded. When you are in that time range you are playing ‘on your level’.

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Charges, I surely see potential in.

Your whole reply was fine, till this line. This is, again, an unwarranted A or B, black or white, reasoning. It does not state in any way why this option is the solution to the stated problem.

It shows that our reasoning is limited and aimed to steer towards an outcome. it should be the other way around. Start with the problem, work the way up towards the solution. That Blizzard may refuse to do anything else doesn’t change this process in any shape or form, because this option may as well be part of that refusal-bucket?

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Simply get rid of keys. Make M+ torghast/delves like.

  • Players can do whatever M+ they unlocked.
  • Players unlock M+ level like torghast/delves (level by level).
107

All that says is

“i can not win a debate so lets poke holes on there avatar because i am losing here badly and can not offer anything back of any merit”

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Great idea or say you can buy 5 charges per week max at a hefty gold/currency price as they should not be a free get out of jail card.

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Hey its better than the usual “You don’t have CE/curve or rio number X thus your argument is invalid” we get on the forums. :rofl:

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lol so true :stuck_out_tongue:

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Actually I “offered” a lot back and responded with arguments, you simply decided to cut it off and quote only half the response in a desperate attempt to not make you look like what you are :clown_face: Ahhh the hypocrisy :smiley:

Still doesn’t change the fact that you’re a random coward typing on a lvl 42 mage and telling people their “view is very narrow” but you’re too afraid to show yourself because you know we would laugh at you and you are not in position to trashtalk anybody in here.

You tried to make it look like I was attacking you but nope, let me bring back the quote and show people who was actually doing personal attacks.

Oh you poor little thing… :dracthyr_crylaugh: :dracthyr_crylaugh: you messed up with the wrong guy.

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Oh we have an internet warrior “shiver” yeah lets misquote me to make yourself look good when anyone can read all your posts and see the remarks you have been given off the whole thread and in your own thread you are toxic but so laughable thank you.

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Misquote? I quoted literally the whole thing :dracthyr_crylaugh: Not my fault if you spit so much trash that you don’t even remember you own :poop:

Go and edit it now if you want :clown_face:

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Just make people enter it like Delves. It’s so easy…

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If you only want to do the Ara Kara’s and Grim Batol’s of said seasons, this is a great idea. If you’d like to do a variety of dungeons, it’s a terrible idea.

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The only reason to spam those is for the vault.

The vault itself is a problem, too, but the keystones don’t result in less Ara’kara, they cause a lot of dead keys.

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And trinkets, which are oddly powerful.

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Raid trinkets are much better.

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And not everyone raids, leaving those M+ trinkets as best alternative…

There’s a reason Grim Batol is popular, and it’s not the speed of it…

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Oh lets not even get started on grim batol. The rogue which I was planning to “raid” on. Spend more time mindlessly farming Gbs for that grace trinket than in the actual raid.

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I think this is interesting, because it’s a clear and straightforward con. You could probably come up with a fix for that tho if you wish. Say you can open up a next rank of a dungeon by succeeding at it, but you’d need all other dungeons checked off too before you can actually run that next rank.

If someone can then group up with a ‘rankholder’ higher than them, there’s some flexibility to this, which is probably better for guilds and such. But if you’d wish to unlock the ranks for dungeons yourself, you’d have to run and succeed at the entire selection of that season.

Something like that? Or are there obvious issues with that solution that I’m no doubt overlooking? It does seem more fun to my simple mind if the keys would be gone.