10/01/2018 21:10Posted by
Ohlin A lightforged draenei that is great at handling weapons and one who is an expert at reading demons and finding their weak points may have been equally effective against the Legion, won't be against a Tauren.
This is sort of how I view how Elves do magic versus how Humans do it. Both boast many powerful mages among them but I view Elven spellcasting as being far more refined and elegant given their multiple millennia experience with it. Humankind by comparison has had only since the Troll Wars and limited by short lifespans and so while potent and as effective, it is of a rougher sort of practice.
There was this one quote, "An elf can light a candle from a hundred yards away, a human would destroy it."
Pets and livestock wouldn't be allowed into the Cathedral! *coughs* *shifty eyes*
The Exodar crashed on Azuremyst because flying isn't allowed there.
Age is not necessarily equal to skill however. Younger and less experienced individuals in Warcraft have fairly often gotten the upper hand when facing someone older and/or more experienced.
And, people here are forgetting how important exhaustion is in a fight. Fancy moves don't mean a lot when you're too tired to lift your blade against an enemy that cannot tire. Among that, from what we have seen in those kids books, a Forsaken losing a limb (even head) means nothing. They can simply just smack it back into their socket and keep on going.
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11/01/2018 14:02Posted by
Tootz a Forsaken losing a limb (even head) means nothing. They can simply just smack it back into their socket and keep on going.
There's a forsaken npc on one of the roads in Zandalar in BfA chopped in half at the waist. He asks you to put him back together.
So even hacking a forsaken in half isn't a death sentence.
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11/01/2018 14:02Posted by
Tootz And, people here are forgetting how important exhaustion is in a fight. Fancy moves don't mean a lot when you're too tired to lift your blade against an enemy that cannot tire.
Yet another advantage of undeath. Infinite stamina!
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I'd contest that notion with my own, that elves and other long-lived races like draenei hold this spot.
Many of them do not dedicate their lives to war, since they have so much time on their hands, but those who do are peerless fighters by virtue of sheer experience.
Imagine when the Lightforged join the fray. Dudes and dudettes who have done nothing but fight for 25 thousand years.
And considering LF have been fighting in the nether all this time and time passes differently in the nether than on Azeroth, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fighting for far more than 25k years.
11/01/2018 14:52Posted by
Uruk And considering LF have been fighting in the nether all this time and time passes differently in the nether than on Azeroth, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fighting for far more than 25k years.
They almost certainly have. If the last like 30 years on Azeroth was a thousand years for Alleria and Turalyon, applying the same equation to the Lightforged totals 833 333 years spent at war.
That's a lot of war.
11/01/2018 15:16Posted by
Serana 11/01/2018 14:52Posted by
Uruk And considering LF have been fighting in the nether all this time and time passes differently in the nether than on Azeroth, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fighting for far more than 25k years.
They almost certainly have. If the last like 30 years on Azeroth was a thousand years for Alleria and Turalyon, applying the same equation to the Lightforged totals 833 333 years spent at war.
That's a lot of war.
Aye so according to that the LF should be the most experience and battle hardened army in the universe bar the Legion ofc. They should be extremely proficient at warfare and fighting techniques. Not to mention the technology.
11/01/2018 15:28Posted by
Uruk Aye so according to that the LF should be the most experience and battle hardened army in the universe bar the Legion ofc. They should be extremely proficient at warfare and fighting techniques. Not to mention the technology.
And look how much that helped the Legion, lol.
It's all fine and dandy saying somebody is battle hardened and experienced and well equipped and w/e, but in the end it all boils down to narrative.
If it makes sense for a den of quillboar to slaughter a platoon of LF, it'll happen and vice versa.
11/01/2018 15:40Posted by
Boush If it makes sense for a den of quillboar to slaughter a platoon of LF, it'll happen and vice versa.
Thinking of the Baine and Garrosh short story, yeah? To be fair the Kor'kron are notoriously stupid.
11/01/2018 15:54Posted by
Sanara 11/01/2018 15:40Posted by
Boush If it makes sense for a den of quillboar to slaughter a platoon of LF, it'll happen and vice versa.
Thinking of the Baine and Garrosh short story, yeah? To be fair the Kor'kron are notoriously stupid.
I could pick any other example, from kobolds to centaur to pygmies, but the point still stands.
But yes I did think of that example.
To be honest it doesn't take a thousand years to master combat, otherwise all draenei and night elves would wipe the floor with younger races, but they don't, the idea that more time makes you better isn't really true and natural skill also plays a factor.
11/01/2018 15:16Posted by
Serana 11/01/2018 14:52Posted by
Uruk And considering LF have been fighting in the nether all this time and time passes differently in the nether than on Azeroth, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fighting for far more than 25k years.
They almost certainly have. If the last like 30 years on Azeroth was a thousand years for Alleria and Turalyon, applying the same equation to the Lightforged totals 833 333 years spent at war.
That's a lot of war.
Assumes that time fluctuations in the nether are consistent and don't...fluctuate. Seems like a poor assumption
Assumes that time fluctuations in the nether are consistent and don't...fluctuate. Seems like a poor assumption
Oh yeah, no, that figure is likely way,
way off. Especially considering it ends in 3 repeating ad infinitum.
It does give some sense of the sheer immensity of what the Army of the Light has endured, however.
So we see Pandaren using names from all over Asia. Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, and on it goes.
My headcanon is that since Jinyu use almost exclusively Japanese names, the instances where we see those Japanese names being used are a result of cultural influence from the Jinyu.
And it doesn't stop at just names. According to this headcanon, there's cultural values that the races of Pandaria generally share between one another due to their shared history post-Mogu. To me, this is the in-universe reason why Pandaren culture is an amalgamation of all the Asian cultures just mixed together. Cultural exchange between other races of Pandaria during the Pandaren Empire time period where Jinyu, Hozen and Pandaren Emperors reigned as equals.
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So we see Pandaren using names from all over Asia. Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, and on it goes.
Also irish (connor), western European (Gina) and just plain weird (Mudmug).
I like to speculate on what the afterlives for the races entail. We know the spirits of dead orcs drift across the Nether supervising their people and that the Tauren go chill with the Sky-Father. We know that, at least for humans, those loyal to the Light get a blissful afterlife. Darkspear get taken by Bwomsamedi to be under his care.. Nelves either become wisps or get to hang out in the Emerald Dream. I haven't read or seen anything canon for the rest of the races though.
Undead - I imagine it's the same fate as Sylvanas. Their souls were claimed by the Shadowlands and they'll suffer an eternity of Hell when they die again.
Belves - Genuinely no clue. I reckon it'd be the same as humans for the faithful.
Goblin - Hookers and blow for ever and ever.
Dwarf - Valhalla, duh.
Gnome - Do these guys even have souls? Seriously they're the one race I cannot remember seeing as a ghost or spirit or whatever in the entire game. Maybe they HAVE no afterlife.
Draenei - I'm pretty sure these guys wander the Nether, too, judging by some quest text I recall about the Draenei storing their souls in crystals so they can't fall prey to demons.
Pandaren - Disney's Mulan style ancestor stuff.