Homophobia in roleplay needs to cease

[Garlakk-argent-dawn]

why would it matter if this is a medieval setting when the first night warrior was a dude with a husband

@Zagkush-argent-dawn

Other than Garithos or maybe even Blackmore, I’ve seen no racism in Wow so far, even then, given the exemples above, why would you want to make a char that everyone will hate?

the game revolves around racism as any healthy fantasy setting does

[Discussion] IC Racism is perfectly fine in Warcraft

Hello Argent Dawn! With the advent of the new year and the next content patch on the horizon I have decided to give Alliance RP a go. To my delight Stormwind City seems active as usual, and with some actually decent Role-Play initiatives (like the daily Town Crier events) I wasn’t put off by the general quality after about 10 minutes. However, at each and every turn where Void Elves (and seemingly only Void Elves) were involved the most random spiel was hurled at anyone who dared voice their d…

[Tehya-wildhammer]

oh, WoW is filled to the brim with racism. Like, between different races, not because skin colour. It’s kinda the entire premise.

[Starshade-argent-dawn]

“Races” in WoW is a really dumb holdover from the D&D usage - elves and humans and orcs (oh my) are different species.

There is no canonical racism in Warcraft.

[Phorys-argent-dawn]

There is a LOT of racism in wow! It is a very xenophobic setting, but yes, nothing to do with the skin of humans. It is mostly humans disliking the other races, seeing themselves as “superior”.

[Zagkush-argent-dawn]

I’ll take my words back then.

[Levey-argent-dawn (Levey)]

@Starshade-argent-dawn

You agreed to the rules when you created your account?? And apply to everything you write in-game, including in /s in a RP server???

Technically, this also means we need to police our own emoting for graphic violence and offensive language too but the point is made.

I’d even argue that the church of the Holy Light’s tenents promote tolerance, acceptance and in no way encourages bigotry. Sure, Scarlets took it in their own bizzare direction but they’re heretical loons led to madness by actual demons. Makes ya think.

@Garlakk-argent-dawn

why would it matter if this is a medieval setting when the first night warrior was a dude with a husband

The medieval setting argument is a falsehood staple of the people wanting a different sort of Azeroth altogether than what the canon gives us.

@Tehya-wildhammer

WoW is filled to the brim with racism. Like, between different races, not because skin colour. It’s kinda the entire premise.

True, though the skin thing goes no further than terms like “greenskin” and how orcs compare pink humans to swine. There’s no canon basis for racism between differently hued humans.

[Starshade-argent-dawn]

@Levey-argent-dawn

Technically, this also means we need to police our own emoting for graphic violence and offensive language too but the point is made.

No argument here, my be-roséd friend.

[Garlakk-argent-dawn]

@Levey-argent-dawn

True, though the skin thing goes no further than terms like “greenskin” and how orcs compare pink humans to swine. There’s no canon basis for racism between differently hued humans.

tbh someone calling my dwarf a coalskinned troglodyte or my void elf a blue-hued freak are also perfectly valid instances of racism within the setting

We just dont see the same happening for eg. Humans (for obvious reasons) while with other races skin color is even part of their culture

[Tehya-wildhammer]

@Levey-argent-dawn

Technically, this also means we need to police our own emoting for graphic violence and offensive language too but the point is made.

I agree and very often criticize people for veering into crazy goreposting/swear spam to make their RP more dramatic.

[Selveera-argent-dawn (Selveera)]

So why is my Draenei or Elf looking down on Homosexuals because she doesn’t understand how one could turn against repopulating a near extinct race for their egoistical reasons bad exactly…?

While many of my characters don’t give a flying dung about who’s on who…

While I agree that there’s an issue with homophobia in our culture, “YOU” should also have 0 say in how other people RP when you want to be accepted the way you RP.

[Tehya-wildhammer]

please read from here and see if you feel like it applies to your RP or not

Homophobia in roleplay needs to cease

is it? Can you hit me with a few canon examples of homophobia? Take your time.

Saves us the effort of having this complete cycle again

[Starshade-argent-dawn]

@Garlakk-argent-dawn

coalskinned troglodyte

that’s approaching :WeirdChamp: territory very very quickly there

@Selveera-argent-dawn

So why is my Draenei or Elf looking down on Homosexuals because she doesn’t understand how one could turn against repopulating a near extinct race for their egoistical reasons bad exactly…?

Because homophobia is non-canon and against the Terms of Service.

please keep up

[Kâî-argent-dawn (Kâî)]

@Azuriida-argent-dawn

Why don’t you first provide example of cannon example of lgbt to begin with?

So wait, you are telling me, for you to think it’s okay for people to roleplay as LGBT, it needs to be in the lore ?

But then you also say

@Azuriida-argent-dawn

So as long as this hate happens ic it is normal in terms of universe

But there is no homophobia in the lore. Make up your mind.

@Azuriida-argent-dawn

Is it realy that hard to belive that for example in feudal kingdom some farmer couldn’t think that he hates when one man dates another for example

Yeah, because that doesn’t happen in WoW, it never has, and it never will.

[Levey-argent-dawn (Levey)]

The Light tells you to respect others and treat one another well. Love is a beautiful thing. The pious draenei would be rather unlikely to be bigots.

[Garlakk-argent-dawn]

@Starshade-argent-dawn

that’s approaching :WeirdChamp: territory very very quickly there

Its not, Id call such a reaction as virtue signalling tbh, some wildhammer throwing slurs at a dark iron dwarf about the latter’s skin color (and eye color, beard being on fire, aesthetics that basically set their clans apart) is just as valid as going on a rant about a clan’s history

[Elenthas-argent-dawn (Elenthas)]

Why isn’t draenei society structured around a strong breeding male and his harem to ensure population stability, that’s my question.

If catgirls can get this right then why can’t squidboys?

[Selveera-argent-dawn (Selveera)]

Fun.

But on a more serious note I wonder how people would react to Blizzard if they’d implement a homophobic character in the lore vs implementing an LBGT character into the lore in 2020…

[Tehya-wildhammer]

@Selveera-argent-dawn

how people would react to Blizzard if they’d implement a homophobic character in the lore

I’d wonder what they think to gain from introducing such an element after about 2 decades of their franchise.

@Selveera-argent-dawn

2020

?

[Starshade-argent-dawn]

@Garlakk-argent-dawn

virtue signalling

@Garlakk-argent-dawn

about the latter’s skin color

no.

@Selveera-argent-dawn

I wonder how people would react to Blizzard if they’d implement a homophobic character in the lore vs implementing an LBGT character into the lore in 2020

gay characters are here to stay and over time will only get gayer I’m sorry* to say

*not even slightly

[Kâî-argent-dawn (Kâî)]

@Levey-argent-dawn

Sure, Scarlets took it in their own bizzare direction but they’re heretical loons led to madness by actual demons. Makes ya think.

Then again, doubt the Scarlets care much about who loves who… They just worry about the purging of the undead… And the living… And everything inbetween.