Homophobia in rp needs to cease

In theory I’m fine with it, but it’s also a thing that I think needs to be done well without downplaying its seriousness, and I’m honestly unsure whether someone who does not know what it’s like to go through that is capable of portraying the nuance in it in a way to do it justice.

Same goes for other serious topics ranging from surviving sexual assault* to war crimes. I don’t want it cheapened for shock factor, so I err on the side of “don’t do it” if you don’t know.

*Please do not RP this out.

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I think mostly because there are cisgender people who do fetishize trans people for their transition - which obviously most trans people would much rather avoid. Call me out if I’m wrong, but to my knowledge they want to be thought of as men, or as women, not as men who were once women or women who once were men.

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There’s a character on AA who I feel portrays a trans character incredibly insensitively, mostly because I know the guy OOC to be cis (non-trans). The character is based solely around this identity, from their description to their theme song, to the point that it is using a genuine real life identity as a gimmick.

I’m not trans, so I can’t really comment on the validity of it for non-trans players. But I would definitely support a trans player exploring it through roleplay, and defend their right to do so.

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[bladewing walks around in smc, yelling]
“commit to be fit”

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As I said very clearly, even alluding to a conversation that justifies bigotry is enough. Since you clearly still stand by it (or you would have denounced it by now), you believe that homophobia can be justified.

Allowed is the wrong word - I don’t pay their subscription so I can’t actually stop people doing it.

They just shouldn’t.

I wouldnt know, im most definitely the wrong person to call someone out for knowing little on the subject lol

I always kind of thought in Azeroth you can use the gender-changing potions or ~magic~ to help with gender dysmorphia, but as evident in Shadowlands that may not be an actual thing? Maybe too expensive/rare or something.

I haven’t seen many trans characters myself though so I wouldn’t know how people RP them out to be anyway.

However, I do think cisgender people should also be allowed to RP them out - we’d also want to avoid fetishization of other LGBTQ+ folk, so I’d instead say that if you want to RP a minority group because you fetishize them, don’t.

I agree that it shuld be handled case-by-case. All bans should be. But people have been banned/muted for this, and surprisingly often.

Gender based discrimination has been a thing in the past, and many of the cultures that displayed it have since then moved on from it towards egalitarian views.

Gender based discrimination is also not sexuality based discrimination, which is an important distinction. Sexual minorities are not the subject of hate because of their orientation.

Even there mere THOUGHT is enough to get the label by proxy!

Sorry I don’t subscribe to your rightthink propaganda nor do I have any modicum of respect for people who employ cancel-culture tactics (i.e. threatening blacklist so spooky, apply slanderous labels in the hopes that they stick and the name is tainted forever)

I think you’re too far gone to even feel embarrassed about this, but rest assured… as I said… outside this weird echochamber of virtue signalling and “CoNfOrM! say the words!” this all means less than nothing.

Far be it from me to tell you how to spend your time posting on the forums, but maybe you’ll consider it.

not a Newspeak word. Please at least read 1984 before pretending to understand it

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we dont rlly know where that Slands NPC is from afaik, might be from a worldwithout such tools.

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@zarental i told you im not a communist

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oh i thought they were from azeroth lmao oops

statistically speaking…

Take the breadpill, Aeilmar…

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Its the same as a bloke RPing a woman or a woman rping a man, if you have an issue with people RPing as trans you have an issue with people rping any sex they are not

status of a sleeper agent has never been approved

Yeah; body dysphoria in the context of the worgen curse or undeath could actually be very cool. Definitely worth remembering that dysphoria doesn’t solely relate to gender – though understandably it’s most well known for that.

Agreed. I think that’s definitely something that has no place in WoW RP, because of its connection to sexual violence.

“Trap” is often used as a pejorative for MTF trans people, particularly when they’re being fetishised. I don’t think people always realise the harm the term can do when used in certain circumstances.

I have no idea who that might be, but, yuck.

I think what people have already said is broadly my position. Roleplay has always been a vehicle for people to explore parts of themselves that are much more difficult to engage with IRL, and we should always look to support that in the community.

there’s a massive difference between being born as X or Y and undergoing a long, gruelling process to go from X/Y to Y/X

I mean yeah

Slightly less of an issue for a man RPing a woman, but it’s especially bad because basically every cis person doesn’t have the first clue what being trans is like