General rule of thumb, stick to what is portrayed in the setting.
Prejudice / speciesism(?) exists between the different races (species) of the game as you’ve mentioned. There was once upon a time some gender-based inequalities, though the cultures where that was present have long since then moved on (human females can enlist in the military now, and Rise of the Horde retconned the single quest from Vanilla about female orcs not being equal, and RPG lore is invalid).
What is not portrayed is racism within the same race focused around skin colour. Some humans do hate each other, but that comes down to patriotism and politics (Kul Tiras seceding from the Alliance because of the Alliance placating the Horde instead of avenging Daelin, Gilneas seceding from the Alliance because they disagreed with how the internment camps were being dealt with) and allegiances (Scarlets branded as heretics by the Church). We even see classism happening (House of Nobles v Defias, Blackmoore and Taretha) but none of it ever revolves around the colour of the skin.
Same applies for
Because they’re directly correlated to real life issues with their direct human coded skin tones. We also do not see sexuality based discrimination as has been hammered in deep in this thread.
And generally it’s also probably wiser to follow newer depictions and consider them an overwriting of prior ones, at least to some extent. BFA-era Blizzard are much more likely to be socially aware than classic-era Blizzard, given how the internet has become a much more common front for the promotion of ideals and the changing of problematic depictions of different people in media.
Blizzard’s stance has always been the new lore trumps old lore when the two are in direct conflict. Lore doesn’t have an expiration day and it is valid unless otherwise stated. The bit from vanilla about orcish gender equality being a recent addition Thrall introduced was retconned in Rise of the Horde which came out 2 years later.
Only inequality among orcs comes from physical prowess (which directly correlates with merit in their culture). Someone born weak and frail (Draka) was discriminated against, but Draka overcame it and proved herself to be one of the finest warriors of her time and she earned the respect that was previously denied from her. Her gender had nothing to do with it.
Orc culture being based solely around strength and feats, with zero regards for gender or sexuality, is way more cool than another boring society that oppresses women.
Yet in the same expansion we see female orcs in prominent roles including but not limited to Chieftain and other military leadership roles without any discrimination or unique treatment.
Nice to see that the thread has kept on going as this is a serious issue. A lot of people have called me out for trolling/lying about the OOC homophobia on Argent Dawn, but I’m hardly going to send the evidence I have to the people who are in question for them to have the time to discredit and disregard the evidence presented against them. There are more appropriate platforms to post such information and make the community aware of such individuals .
At least Krasarang had the decency to own up to what he’s said previously with regard to this topic of discussion.
Homophobia is an IC and an OOC problem in our communities rather than being an exclusively IC problem and I still maintain that it should be challenged in all forms and that’s why I’d still label a few posters within this thread as hypocrites.
Your calculations are correct. But you would post a comment like that given you have characters in PCU guilds. So of course, deny that COAD is a legitimate platform. There are two sides to every story.
I’ve already made it clear why I won’t pm them personally as they’ll find a way to disregard/discredit the evidence as they always do. If Morsteth had the decency that Krasarang did, he’d own up to the things he’s said.
