One exists in the setting. The other does not.
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Yeah and apparently your ideal rp experience is homophobia lol
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Irelia, unless your character is a very opinionated statistician with the entire demographic data of their race at hand, you might be somewhat grasping at straws at this point.
Have you ever RPed an elf? They are rather practical and less forgiving that we as people are.
Sure. You can believe what you want with the pot. As is your freedom to do so under your interpretation of the lore.
Iâve only seen evidence that supports that these sexual lifestyles exist. Nothing to say that some people will develop opinions against them. But that is as much as I going into it as it is getting tiring repeating the same thing now.
No. You just like to think that.
That fantasy racism is supported by the lore though⌠fantasy homophobia isnât. Why is this so hard?
Itâs simple logic. Adopting doesnât grow a population.
Yes, I have, for many years. And over the years blood elves have grown drastically less arrogant.
Difference here is that my interpretation is supported by the lore, yours is not. For many years before, many elves were pious worshippers of the Holy Light and were taught the same message of respect and compassion.
And I have seen nothing that would suggest elves are even remotely homophobic.
Debatable. But thatâs a topic for another time.
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You repeat the same thing like a broken record, claiming lore supports you and then fail to provide said lore supporting homophobia existing in the setting.
To date no one has managed to give a source to support that. Weird.
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One cannot spell sinâdorei without sin.
Jokes aside though thatâs definitely something that would vary from character to character.
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My point is as supported as yours it. Does it say on the wiki that it makes you viable to produce offspring? If not, it is headcannon with the same reasoning behind it that I am using.
You are right.
This is tiring. I have explained myself over and over and I donât need anyone elses approval for how I interpret the lore and RP the characters I make.
I feel I have offered all I can to this discussion and am stepping out.
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bye felicia
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au revoir in ten words
To play devilâs advocate, there is a character in the books that contradicts another of Steve Danuserâs recent points, that sexism does not have a place in the lore, that being Lorin Remka who had to disguise herself as a male to join the army during the Second War.
However itâs clearly contradicted by future material such as Chronicles Vol. 2 (with artwork of the Second War), and along with homophobia should definitely not have a place in WoW whatsoever. However, my point is that Blizzard has a habit of contradicting themselves on previous lore, but thatâs probably not a surprise to anyone.
I think specifically with this we can chalk at least some of it to Blizzard becoming more socially conscious and considerate of what they choose to depict, much as a company like Disney has a lot of things that are really offensive in their old filmography (namely Song of the South, although Blizzardâs never done anything that controversial to my knowledge), it wouldnât surprise me if Blizzard are trying to silently move away from past depictions without drawing any attention to them.
You donât. But roleplaying is a community driven thing. Oneâs enjoyment and interpretation should not be more important than the immersion and welbeing of the community. There are things I have different readings on then others or I think are too controversial. I choose to stay away from those and that makes it a more enjoyable environment for both me and the people I interact with.
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From the Lord of the Clans novel, which was released in 2001 before even Warcraft 3âs release. And itâs more or less the sole example of sexism in this setting, at least amongst the more civilised races. And it is contradicted almost everywhere else since then.
Oh absolutely. I never thought overmuch of Song of the South either, but it certainly has its connotations in the public image. You are quite right with Blizzard taking that kind of approach, but I think keeping a companyâs overall history in mind is critical to evaluating their work, and which direction it has taken.
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Irelia really is proving that âi have 10 years of experience in RPâ comment means nothing in terms of quality of RP the player can provide.
Once more thereâs 200+ posts arguing about already-debunked points.
@zagkush can you add the links from previous thread (with perhaps a short context) to your original post so that people who click on this thread can see what has already been talked about? When you have time, that is!
Itâs abysmal that there are still people arguing for âmuh populationâ or similar takes (or arguing about racism) when itâs been beaten to the ground ten times over already.
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Even if all the rules against homophobia/sexism/racism are based on corporations wanting to seem PC⌠I really donât mind. The result is that we get to play in a space without alt-right degeneracy. The only people that lose are bigots.
For the record, homophobia isnât a thing in quite a few fantasy universes; The Elder Scrolls comes to mind. Fantasy authors often time like to make universes that donât have to deal with the same crap as we do in real life; or, alternatives, donât feel the need to write it in, because itâs just a weird thing to force into a setting.
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