Homophobia in rp needs to cease

I didn’t really expect to get a real answer to that, thanks :slight_smile: one would think people would think more about that there is a player behind the character that can have lived trough things you have no clue about.

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Obviously not all of it. But I have enough of an idea by now.

I owe you somewhat of an apology here as well, actually. Given my own past experiences with people in general, let alone these forums here, it’s difficult to assume folk are going to be sincere, or want to listen.

So yeah, gonna be up front and apologise there.

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There’s a common RP thing about separating out IC and OOC. The intention of it is to avoid characters that are just a direct copy of your IRL self - so-called ‘Second-Life RPers’ who ignore the setting they’re playing in entirely.

To give an example, we had a Whole Thing back in the day where people who roleplayed as characters who supported Sylvanas back before she went full evil were characterised as supporting IRL genocides - which is obviously ridiculous.

Unfortunately, the ‘separate IC and OOC’ argument doesn’t work when it comes to IRL bigotries. If my character hates the Horde, that doesn’t hurt anyone - because the Horde isn’t real. If he begins speaking in sexist slurs, real-life women are hurt and marginalised by that.

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Starshade, didn’t I revoke your talking card?

but moooooOOOooooooOOOooom

Oh okay fine. You can have your talking card back.
Also I am doubling your allowance for doing good work. <3

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I intend to immediately exploit this with even worse puns

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Sweet merciless Slaanesh what have I wrought

Heard this before. It’s utterly ridiculous.

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I was on the receiving end of this a lot as I was an officer in the Rotgarde at the time and let me tell you as an avowed antifascist it gets really old

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Sorry to hear that :I But I’ve also been there if anybody remembers the stupidity in recent. Hopefully nobody does but still. Images and role play =/= support of something. People need to separate fact from fiction, IRL from IC.

No sorry, I mean, oh me gerd u support killing!!!

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The line between IC views and OOC views can blur sometimes depending on what, or more specifically how something is depicted.

Forsaken screaming death to the living and then abiding by that mantra? It’s logical from an in-character standpoint, it’s detached from reality, people acting vengefully towards those who they believe wronged them is pretty much villain-writing 101 and I’m all for it.

Stormwind humans acting dodgy towards night elf refugees because they percieve them as dangerous, and untrustworthy? That starts to look a little bit like OOC views being taken IC.

And not stuff like “we can’t afford to keep this many people here” which is a possibly valid angle to take, but “These people didn’t live here before and now they do and they have magic and it’s scary.”

Coming from the people who reside in a city with a quarter dedicated to mages.

I can’t admittedly think of many other examples where it’s felt like OOC views have seeped in, barring the whole Tanaris/Uldum human thing and the backlash that people bring to that IC. Both of which are equally ugly.

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Will have to make a thread about the do’s and don’t in rp, and what rp really means won’t I?

“But we can’t afford them and their magic is so very scary!”

“So send them off to Westfall where they can earn a living restoring the land, which is what their magic excels at, so that we can finally restore the kingdom’s breadbasket and afford to feed them.”

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There are definitely some conversations to be had, particularly with the species in WoW which are pretty transparently coded to be certain IRL ethnicities, or call upon problematic language.

I was talking in broad strokes because people generally know where the line is.

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but the night elf camps still on the streets is proof nobody wants them with the human households!!!

(despite like, stories showing how human families open their doors and smth smth if im not wrong?)

in general, aren’t most humans a whole lot more accepting of ppl anyway than what the general stormwindian RPer is like lmao

now that would just be a logical thing to do and we can’t have that in WoW

Probably just because so many buildings in Stormwind don’t actually have interiors, and they gotta show the big change of night elves coming in somehow!

Although the two in the Old Town saying they can’t afford food is pretty sad.

I really hope come Shadowlands or w/e the camps get cleared out or we get an actual portrayal of humans living with the night elven refugees or w/e.

Or maybe maybe show them in Hyjal while removing the camps.

cmon blizz, there’s towns-in-boxes in WoW, there’s literally 0 excuse to not set up at least some kinda boarding houses for the elves in stormwind lmao

Humans in Stormwind:
“Well, you used to live outside in a big tree, right? So here you go - here’s more outside for you!”

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If they make elves refurnish the trees in Elwynn/Stormwind and shape them to their houses or w/e that’d be actually cool too.

but no, big pumpkins instead :upside_down_face:

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