Homophobia in rp needs to cease

[Vaxir-argent-dawn (Vaxir)]

Well, there was the jade witch around. So people like that do exist on WoW.

[Loras-argent-dawn]

@Azareal-argent-dawn

Child groomers have internet therefore they occupy every online space there is?

Every large online space, yes. That’s a safe assumption to make.

[Fouleye-argent-dawn]

@Azareal-argent-dawn

I often wonder the same about you, i ask about actual articles documenting incidents of child grooming in WoW and your response is, what exactly? Child groomers have internet therefore they occupy every online space there is?

as someone who has spent the past the past 16 years online (which is probably close to your RL age) I can safely state:

Yes

[Ranko-argent-dawn]

Yeah, but like, where’s the proof?!

It’s an asinine question really. But, there’s always one.

[Annlively-argent-dawn]

It kinda feels like the same kind of person who goes “trans is fake lol learn to biology”.
It’s just sealioning, really. Pretending to care about evidence when all they’re really doing is disingenuously trying to frustrate and exhaust whoever they are talking to under the pretense of doing due diligence.

[Tehya-wildhammer]

@Azareal-argent-dawn

Child groomers have internet therefore they occupy every online space there is?

Yes?

@Azareal-argent-dawn

i ask about actual articles documenting incidents of child grooming in WoW

@Azareal-argent-dawn

or is it just a matter of hearsay and assumptions?

yeah instead of asking for proof what you said is “balls to any personal experience uttered in this thread surely child groomers are incapable of launching WoW on the AD realm”

and i’m like 5% sure your english is sufficient to understand exactly what you said

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

I have anecdotal evidence.

Caught somebody trying it on with my IRL friend (who was under age at the time), when she told them that she was underage, they continutes to try and ERP with her.

i got her to report them, didn’t see them again after that.

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Also, there have been a few times where somebody has tried it on with me in /w and didn’t back off when I told them I was a 12 year old boy.

[Aldru-argent-dawn (Aldru)]

Hi I got groomed into ERP when I was 14 a whole decade ago, guy in question never saw it as a problem rather the opposite so get of your high horse with “lol no groomers in RP”.

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

But Aldru, age is just a number!

/s

[Aldru-argent-dawn (Aldru)]

God I wish I could reach through my screen and slap anyone using that phrase unironically

[Calia-argent-dawn]

@Croecell-argent-dawn

I have anecdotal evidence.

I worry that quite a few people do.

For my part, I have had a friend leave the game due to extended grooming. When the creep in question then turned their attention on me in much the same way, I was locked into a lovely little game of “block the alt” whenever the person felt they had worked out a new angle to try and maintain contact.

Said player was married IRL and more than a decade older than both my friend and I. Thankfully they have (as far as I know) since left the game themselves.

[Azareal-argent-dawn (Azareal)]

@Tehya-wildhammer

yeah instead of asking for proof what you said is “balls to any personal experience uttered in this thread surely child groomers are incapable of launching WoW on the AD realm”

If that’s your interpretation of what i said, you’re wrong. But you’re free to nitpick all you want.

@Aldru-argent-dawn

“lol no groomers in RP”

Can you show me where i said that?

[Tehya-wildhammer]

It’s just quite literally what you said by calling it all hearsay and assumptions LOL

U know you’re just allowed to apologize for clumsy phrasing right? It’s 100% a legal move.

[Baerhugues-argent-dawn]

Why are people still arguing about this thread ?..
Is it so hard to stomach that people don’t want to get bothered about sexuality on a video game ?..

[Aldru-argent-dawn (Aldru)]

@Azareal-argent-dawn

Can you show me where i said that?

Every single time you call it hearsay or assumptions.

[Bish-argent-dawn]

Hey uhhhhhhh why are we talking about child grooming on a thread about homophobia? Child grooming is evil but idk if I like the implied take here that its related to gays somehow.

[Loras-argent-dawn]

These threads always zig zag between topics. This is the 2nd of two massive threads, both of which have derailed and re-railed a number of times.

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

Got to agree with Tehya and Aldru on that.

Calling it “hearsay and assumptions” when I have PERSONALLY had experience with it (as well as a fair few people in this thread, including Aldru themselves) is quite a bad take.

[Vaxir-argent-dawn (Vaxir)]

Because some numpty night elf brought it up.

[Dawnblade-steamwheedle-cartel]

This is really stupid derail for the record.

Generally I agree with people in this thread, irl bigotries have no place in a fantasy setting and ergo roleplay. Having been in this dumb nerd hobby for a while, experience has taught me that more often than not, people love to hide behind “it’s what my character is like/does” as a cover for their irl bigotries.

I can also see the value in Bish’s take that such conflict can make for rewarding and engaging storylines, but with the caveat that such heavy and potentially harmful topics take place with consenting partners.

Honestly, I feels like a concept of consent needs to be discussed more in the realm of roleplay. It rather feels like people have this conception that by roleplaying in WoW at any level, you automatically consent to be subjected to whatever spews out of their head at any given moment. Whether it be some jumped up Elf roleplayer calling your Orc character fantasy slurs, or a horny rando sliding into your /w unprompted. Just a moment of thought on the part of the instigator to ask for permission, and be able to take being told to go away with grace is all it needs.