Homophobia in rp needs to cease

It doesn’t need to be political pressure or duress to fall under that category when social pressure from the immediate family is enough. Until roughly the recent generation or two, it was the norm that children were raised to view different sexual orientations as deviancy and at times even an illness that needs to be treated. That kind of fear of the other can be deep seated and hard to get rid of no matter how accepting current society is as can be evidenced by the state of right wing politics around the world right now. Despite the many victories securing something so simple as basic human rights for everyone are being undermined.

And children still get indoctrinated by their parents a lot on what is right and wrong from a young age. The idea of a self-sabotaging closeted member of the LGBT community often stems from familial pressure and is still prevalent in the current day, unfortunately.

I can tell you that if I were a member of the LGBT community, my dad would disown me pretty quickly based on the kind of person he is. Needless to say he and I are not very close, and he was never the male role model in my life. While I am not LGBT, there are many who share a similar situation that are.

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Good, chum.

Forgive me for not wanting to be accused of homophobia.

And it is varifiably false because I said so. And given I am the arbiter of my own views and morals, nobody else can challenge me.

I don’t need to prove anything. I am the one being accused. And what I am being accused of I can comfortably say is false.

Okay, so your defence for being accused for being a homophobe for encouraging and supporting homophobic characters in RP is “I don’t think I’m a homophobe”.

Is this our defamation expert at work?

Yes. (And more characters for the 10 limit)

The burden of proof is on the accuser, yes.
Thank you to the towering genius of Mr Hitchens, taken from us too soon.

Unable to differentiate separate works of fiction (eg, WoW and idk, Lovecraftian stuff since you want to be a bigot in fiction) just to be a homophobe makes you bad RPer who’s also homophobic.

Indeed - and the claims all show you have homophobic takes. Through ignorance it makes you homophobic. You don’t show that you’re not homophobic by just saying ‘lol ur wrong’ because you’re actually still standing by those takes, and continuing to defend other homophobic takes / showing support for them.

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“Ah but u see, im not a homophobe i just dont like em”

lol!

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There’s so much you can RP in wow, so many interesting concepts.
Yet you are dedicating 67 posts on this topic to defend what is the most uninteresting and boring character flaw.
Which also has no basis in lore, and is against the TOS.

Why do you think everyone assumes an ulterior motive?

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I am familiar with your text Telaryn, but I appreciate the nice effort anyway.

The issue as I see it is the person not being differentiated from their character. In both the cases of Amdusias’s Orc and Irelia. Even if the Orc is from another fictional universe, the point I was trying to make is that I do not believe he was under any sort of pressure from anyone to Rp the way he wants…

… and that is perhaps a segue into another point I wish to make: if it is against ToS, it will be banned, if it is not, then others have no right to police others.

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You have never roleplayed with me, thus you have no ground to judge and you have no evidence to suggest I am homophobic.
Next.

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It really is just this painstakingly simplistic.

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you literally said your character is homophobic (it was the night elf, right?)

i’d double check but searching on this forums is awful especially when you have altposters bloating the whole thread up

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No. I can comfortably continue to say I am not homophobic and blame everything else on your ignorance for thinking otherwise despite everything I have already said to disprove the claims.

Very good. I liked your post as a participation prize.

This is just your opinion.

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You haven’t said anything to disprove the claims other than ‘this is false’.

Doesn’t disprove anything. Again, stop being obtuse.

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What a strange suggestion to say that all night elves have roleplayed with one another, but yes. The Night Elf I have looks down on same sex relationships (especially amongst their own kind.)

I would explain their world view more but no one here is interested in context since slander is thrown around so flippantly.

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The problem stems from the fact that such views are not appropriate in this setting’s lore, and the player has made the conscious effort to inject them into it anyway regardless of the very factual statement from the current lead writing denying the validity of such views in this setting.

And the lengths to which the player has then gone to defend their right to RPing such views very aggressively despite the Terms of Service strictly prohibiting it.

Which it very much is. So I think it’s a good time to stop, yes?

You two keep claiming that there’s no proof, and we have to provide proof. But people have done nothing but cite your previous posts and give reasoning, for the last… 5 hours?

Which means it’s in the warcraft universe, which has no basis for homophobia and so on (the whole argument’s been done infinitely).

So in short, no - you’re still a homophobe.

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Where have we expressed our own dislike of same sex relationships? I find this hilarious by the by, as I write this on my phone while being hugged by my partner.

(They also think you’re being ludicrous.)

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