Somehow I don’t think that a mysterious force pestering the leader of Gilneas until he confesses vocally that he is in fact a, and I quote, a “good boy” is something that most people are going to consider canon.
Yes and if the ToS applies to what people IC, people should be banned for being racists IC.
If people RP as being racist as per the real world definition I’m willing to bet they’ll be banned for it. Hell they’ll get a ban for using a very specific word one time in that RP.
You two have been arguging for the right to RP characters who hates gays for 8+ hours. Grasping at straws the whole time, I’d say that’s embarrassing.
And you have spent the same length of time accusing us of being homophobic. Could have at least accused me of something at least partially true.
And it is still racism.
I can’t honestly believe you’re taking the IRL issue of racism and making an equivalency of orcs hating humans. 8 hours later.
Lets us remember, all in the goal to justify RPing a character who hates gays.
And you still go around asking “Why do people think I’m homophobic?”
And you have spent the same length of time accusing us of being homophobic. Could have at least accused me of something at least partially true.
I’m not going to call you homophobic. But again I question why you feel it necessary to stand by something that could be frustrating or upsetting to the LGBTQ+ community as a whole, and do so for such a long time at that.
If people RP as being racist as per the real world definition I’m willing to bet they’ll be banned for it. Hell they’ll get a ban for using a very specific word one time in that RP.
There is no other definition of racism. If you are racist IC, your character is a racist. And thus, breaches the ToS.
And you still go around asking “Why do people think I’m homophobic?”
You have said this probably twenty times now and it is still not true.
I’m not going to call you homophobic. But again I question why you feel it necessary to stand by something that could be frustrating or upsetting to the LGBTQ+ community as a whole, and do so for such a long time at that.
As I have already said. I am a programmer. I am anal when it comes to rules and how they are applied. Either they are applied fairly and sensibly or there is no point in having rules at all.
Are you still pushing this? Clearly, you truly are malicious. Or just vapid.
No, I’m asking why would anyone want to listen to a homophobe (especially since you did not bring any other ((new) points of view to discussion), but if you felt attacked then maybe you were the homophobe too?
I just asked why’d people want to listen to a homophobe in general, at least - when it comes to homophobia.
Also, I’m surprised by how well the ignore system works on the forums, I ignored the undead to get the screenshot and it’s been hiding posts better than discord to the point where I’m confused where he’s written something.
Heartily recommending to ignore the trolls! Takes a few clumsy clicks, is all.
Is that a threat?
Not really, but from what I keep seing here, why are you even sticking around at this point? Do you secretly like this sort of attention?
I didn’t write a reply that long just to troll you.
You dismissed what I posted just to suit yourself, I call that trolling, long paragraph or not.
You have said this probably twenty times now and it is still not true.
Because you don’t get it after twenty times, you are so incredibly stupid.
There is a difference between conforming to the narrative / setting of the game to be creative with insults, and using modern day slang and insults which are often simply not fitting, on top of being inappropriate.
the goal to justify RPing a character who hates gays.
On the other side…
Let them, they’ll get their bums vilified real fast, have fun being hated ic and when they take it ooc… well they keep spouting keep IC and OOC apart.
As I have already said. I am a programmer. I am anal when it comes to rules and how they are applied. Either they are applied fairly and sensibly or there is no point in having rules at all.
In the case of programming then yes, 100%, that is absolutely true. Every line of code should serve a function, every variable should be accounted for, all of that stuff.
But unless you’re a Mark Zuckerberg type trying to really squish the human experience down into an algorithm, then that level of objectivity just isn’t applicable in cases like this. Some things do need to be done on a case by case basis and no amount of consideration or coverage could ever account for the vastly different behaviours of different people.
Let them, they’ll get their bums vilified real fast
They are already, I honestly can’t believe they have posted this much embarrassing crap on a public forum, at least one of them had enough sense to post on a classic alt.
There is no other definition of racism. If you are racist IC, your character is a racist. And thus, breaches the ToS.
There is real racism and then there is ‘racism’ against fictional animals (and corpses). (*)
The two are not the same thing and, since the ToS’ context is in the real world the latter isn’t even a factor.
(*) We all have the right to be ‘racist’ to filthy humies due to the fact that we are all Humans here, only larger people can be anti-Kul Tiran though.
They’re probably lying about being a programmer anyway, real coders know it’s all spaghetti where nothing is equal or fair

Anyways… I’m repeating myself way to often, more than I should,so this is where I will be retiring for the day.
I just asked why’d people want to listen to a homophobe in general, at least - when it comes to homophobia.
Maybe if you ask these people why they don’t like you, you will have a better understanding of how to fix it.
If somebody hates me, the first thing I do is ask why.
Not really, but from what I keep seing here, why are you even sticking around at this point? Do you secretly like this sort of attention?
I don’t really care. I am rather patient and unphased by other people trying to belittle me.
But unless you’re a Mark Zuckerberg type trying to really squish the human experience down into an algorithm, then that level of objectivity just isn’t applicable in cases like this. Some things do need to be done on a case by case basis and no amount of consideration or coverage could ever account for the vastly different behaviours of different people.
In some situations I would agree. But these are the ToS. They need to be clear and accurate. People’s accounts they have put their money into are at stake.
And it doesn’t look like there is a special expectation for roleplayers.
So this ether lumps all roleplay under the generic ToS, which HIGHLY constricts it and ruins a lot of roleplay I am currently in, or it doesn’t apply at all. To which it is more of a … live and let live situation.
They are already, I honestly can’t believe they have posted this much embarrassing crap on a public forum, at least one of them had enough sense to post on a classic alt.
I don’t care what you think of me. I will keep going just fine after this thread.
There is real racism and then there is ‘racism’ against fictional animals (and corpses). (*)
They are the same thing. One is fake and one is real. But that is the same for everything said IC.
They’re probably lying about being a programmer anyway, real coders know it’s all spaghetti where nothing is equal or fair
That’s just life I am afraid.
Anyways… I’m repeating myself way to often, more than I should,so this is where I will be retiring for the day.
Sleep well.
But again I question why you feel it necessary to stand by something that could be frustrating or upsetting to the LGBTQ+ community as a whole, and do so for such a long time at that.
I am not someone to roll over and be walked over. The amount of times I was bullied when i was younger, incidentally for being avowedly out and proud has imbued me with a no-nonsense attitude to would be bullies and harassers.
If you cannot understand why someone would stick up for themselves I really have nothing else to say to you.
Sleep well.
Likewise.,
Maybe if you ask these people why they don’t like you, you will have a better understanding of how to fix it.
If somebody hates me, the first thing I do is ask why.
yeah i’ll ask a homophobe why they’d hate me
then again i prolly don’t need to cuz i know the answer already
should i ask your homophobic char that IC? and then also say my char has spawned like 500 offspring so your character’s two or w/e is kinda low and weak :S