Homophobia in rp needs to cease

[Soulburn-argent-dawn]

@Amdusias-mirage-raceway

I play gay characters, I am actually gay IRL, I have a partner and I really dislike homophobia.
…so, why accuse me of it?

What? did you even read the comment you are responding to?

[Amdusias-mirage-raceway]

@Soulburn-argent-dawn

What? did you even read the comment you are responding to?

You evidently don’t, so why should I?

[Mogi-argent-dawn (Mogi)]

Also let me pull the “as a gay man” card to confirm that gay men can in fact still be racist, bigoted, and yes, even homophobic. We aren’t a sinless community.

[Soulburn-argent-dawn]

@Mogi-argent-dawn

Also let me pull the “as a gay man” card to confirm that gay men can in fact still be racist, bigoted, and yes, even homophobic. We aren’t a sinless community.

One single visit on grindr can show you that. OR the wow forums as it turns out.

[Ïrelia-argent-dawn]

They shouldn’t even need to do that to defend themselves. But you people are relentless and dense.

[Nerathion-argent-dawn (Nerathion)]

@Amdusias-mirage-raceway

But because one of my characters does not like the idea of a same-sex relationship, for flawed reasons. I am somehow some form of oppressive monster.
No, you do not get to decide that, no one here is allowed to decide that.

If you are a homophobe, you are a homophobe, which you seemingly decided for yourself.

And you are, as seen by this thread

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

I was making a point that if you asked, perhaps you would know more to convince them to stop hating on you.

Naturally, if I knew the origins of their homophobia, I would perhaps manage to get them to think otherwise. It doesn’t exactly seem to work on you, though.

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

You are missing the point I have made countless times or choosing to ignore it.
The ToS applies to IC interactions and forbids racism. By that logic, all racist characters should be banned.

Indeed, any racist (by IRL terms) character should be banned. You’re ignoring the quite literal fact there are two different meanings for the racism brought up, speciesism and actual racism.

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

And any elf that thinks they are better than other races is a racist character.

In WoW terms, sure. Haven’t seen them throw around IRL racist lingo and the like yet, though.

WoW racism != IRL racism, can you comprehend this very short (and easy) logic expression?

@Amdusias-mirage-raceway

I play gay characters, I am actually gay IRL, I have a partner and I really dislike homophobia.
…so, why accuse me of it?

Have you not read the 234 posts that say LGBTQ+ ppl can be anti-LGBTQ+? Homosexuals can be homophobic too, in many ways. You even replied to a previous comment of mine about that (but missed the point then)

@Mogi-argent-dawn

It’s 2am.

it’s 4 here =(
also ppl stop posting so fast im falling behind trying to reply to a post 30 posts ago

[Loras-argent-dawn]

PSA #2: LGBT people can, and often do, possess homophobic beliefs. You do not have to be heterosexual or directly homophobic to have problematic views.

[Soulburn-argent-dawn]

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

They shouldn’t even need to do that to defend themselves. But you people are relentless and dense.

I completely agree, LGBT people shouldn’t need to defend themselves from homophobia within their videogame or wow forum experience. One upvote from me.

[Rainwatcher-argent-dawn]

@Amdusias-mirage-raceway

I play gay characters, I am actually gay IRL, I have a partner and I really dislike homophobia.
…so, why accuse me of it?

I can only speak for myself, but I’m only accusing you of making a mistake in making an IC homophobe character and being too stubborn to accept that and work towards doing better.

[Mogi-argent-dawn (Mogi)]

EDIT: Removed out of respect.

[Carees-argent-dawn]

@Sindrí-argent-dawn

i’ll just wait till ion plays on his personal account and then report him.

Good Sindri, good. Report him. Report him now. Dew it.

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

I feel the ToS needs a section specifiying roleplay and how far people should take it.

It does but I can say with almost 100% certainty that if they did so the rules regarding sexism, racism and homophobia would stay due to the PR risk they present for Blizz.

[Ïrelia-argent-dawn]

@Nerathion-argent-dawn

Indeed, any racist (by IRL terms) character should be banned. You’re ignoring the quite literal fact there are two different meanings for the racism brought up, speciesism and actual racism.

Racism is racism.

@Nerathion-argent-dawn

In WoW terms, sure. Haven’t seen them throw around IRL racist lingo and the like yet, though.

WoW racism != IRL racism, can you comprehend this very short (and easy) logic expression?

Racism is racism.

@Nerathion-argent-dawn

Naturally, if I knew the origins of their homophobia, I would perhaps manage to get them to think otherwise. It doesn’t exactly seem to work on you, though.

I’m going to stop responding to you now. I tire of your lies.

[Obahar-argent-dawn]

@Mogi-argent-dawn

My RP guild will have a “no blacks, no fems, no fats” rule. I want only straight-acting butches.

I know this is said as a joke, I know this is sarcasm or irony, but I won’t lie, that physically hurt to read and I’m going to ask you to never post that anywhere again.

[Soulburn-argent-dawn]

@Ïrelia-argent-dawn

I’m going to stop responding to you now. I tire of your lies.

I think you should stop responding to the thread.

[Ïrelia-argent-dawn]

@Soulburn-argent-dawn

I completely agree, LGBT people shouldn’t need to defend themselves from homophobia within their videogame or wow forum experience. One upvote from me.

You misunderstand. Amdusias shouldn’t need to because they aren’t a homophobe.

[Mogi-argent-dawn (Mogi)]

@Obahar-argent-dawn

I know this is said as a joke, I know this is sarcasm or irony, but I won’t lie, that physically hurt to read and I’m going to ask you to never post that anywhere again

Taken down, don’t worry about it.

[Ïrelia-argent-dawn]

@Carees-argent-dawn

It does but I can say with almost 100% certainty that if they did so the rules regarding sexism, racism and homophobia would stay due to the PR risk they present for Blizz.

Probably. But then, they are clearer rules and would stop this whole argument so I get what I want.

[Loras-argent-dawn]

I think he was joking with you. He says similar stuff when I send him really weird memes

[Mogi-argent-dawn (Mogi)]

it’s nearly 3am what are we doing here

[Avantheria-argent-dawn]

Just to suffer.