Hey dont bull our Rolfkrake.
Hes sp3cial
And again, what about PvE servers? Why should the Alliance be favored there, too, despite being the majority faction? You should really stop resorting to the âminority factionâ argument, because not all servers are Horde majority.
The truth is this is a pvp related post so noone care about PVE servers, and pve servers should have their separate battlegrounds anyway.
Classic killed the moment it was launched, nothing to see there!
Well and I honestly couldnât care less about PvP servers - I guess that makes us even? This AV change might look âunfairâ to you, but itâs definitely fair from my PoV. The game doesnât revolve around PvP servers.
And PvE servers were mixed with PvP servers in battlegroups back then. But there was also an even amount of PvE and PvP servers, back then. Blizzardâs mistake, this time around, was simply seconding the PvP craze and opening so many PvP servers.
For PvP Qs on BGs every Horde server is overpopulated.
Again, so what? What makes the Alliance minority on those servers think that they somehow matter more than the Horde minorities on PvE servers? Why should my gameplay be made worse just to appease those Alliance minorities?
Horde needs an aoe silence raical too. Plx Blizz⌠Plx⌠Help your crybabiesâŚ
Horde minority is not harassed on daily bases on PvE servers so what special care you think horde minority needs exactly?
There are still serious disadvantages to being the minority faction besides PvP, such as scarcity of resources due to the other factionâs competition and more difficulty making groups. And on top of that, we ALSO have longer BG queues. Do you rly expect my sympathy or what?
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I mean, to level with you we have the scarcity of resources, the difficulty making groups and also the hell of the open world. I think they are pretty equal in lameness to your really long queues. I think both are downsides in their own way, but the horde queues also leads to the allianceâs issue which is being camped constantly. Itâs an issue that is difficult to fix.
I donât honestly mind being camped, but it gets tiring and I can see why people have given up and tferred away.
You have to wonder WHY alliance are favored on pve servers, Iâd haphazard to say that they were kind of balanced in phase one, and once transfers were introduced started swinging drastically in alliance direction as they were fleeing from PvP servers.
The issue is, this change will just make things worse for both of us, thatâs why you should be sympathetic. Iâm sympathetic of the horde having long queues honestly, Iâm pretty sure a lot of rankers donât want to sit on flight points and gank lowbies constantly, it doesnât count as âpvpâ really (well nor did pve in AV but yaknowâŚ).
Longer queues for horde (including the pve horde, who probably arenât killing in open world), and worse life for alliance on pvp servers as horde are forced to kill open world between games. Itâs a lose-lose.
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Thatâs easy, itâs because Alliance is favored in PvE content (paladins, fear ward, sword specialization for humans, etc).
And why should I? Frankly, my gameplay would be better if these PvP servers of yours didnât even exist. Not this many, at least. But hey, Iâll have my revenge in TBC once Horde will stomp Alliance out of PvE servers too, and nobody will care because of Arenas.
If you canât see how things are a negative for both and donât want to improve the game as a whole for all players, no matter what type of server they play on then Iâm not sure what to say.
I tried to have a balanced discussion with you, but I see that wonât be possible, so have a nice day 
I donât mind people having a better game experience but when these people have been spitting over mine since before launch AND their very existence has consistently made my own game experience worse even after launch (alliance refugees skewing balance, BG queues etc), how can you really expect ANY sympathy from me? If anything, I hope more PvP servers crash and burn so we can hope for some parity down the line.
At least the current AV fix will make life harder for premades, which is a plus for me.
Difficulty of making group is coming from the low faction population, but that is not generated by the other faction like in horde dominated pvp servers.
On the other hand for alliance minority on a pvp server itâs not just extremely difficult to find groups because of the low faction population, but even everyday activities like reaching an instance or delivering a quest is a torture because the zones are full with ganker psychos.
Any other difficulties you mentioned are coming from high overall server population which is the same for both alliance and horde players (limited resources, etc.).
Anyway Iâm not expecting your symphaty (I honestly donât care about your opinion) just wanted to point out that alliance minority on a pvp servers have way more difficulties than horde minority have ever had on any pve server.
I never said Alliance doesnât have it harder in PvP, but it kinda pisses me off when they say stuff like âWhy Blizz killed premades, we already are the minority faction we shouldnât be asked to play on equal ground in BGs! Where were you in phase 2??â. Because on PvE server, Alliance gets the best of both worlds already, and I donât see why Blizzard should favor Alliance (on ALL servers) just because they happen to be unfavored on PvP servers.
Alliance is pissed off, because everything they complained about before was rejected in the name of #nochanges, but as soon as horde cried for something #nochanges turned into #justanadjustment.
I like how Alliance players are pointing finger at Horde players. It is always the other players whose fault everything it. Never anything you could have done yourself.
Heck, I wish I could play Alliance just so I could prove all the cry babies wrong, but there are no Shamans so I canât do it.
We are pointing fingers to an obviously rigged game not the players themselves.
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The original sin was appeasing the PvP craze with so many PvP servers, they shouldâve kept the number of PvP and PvE servers equal and just enforce queues to force ppl out of swarming to PvP servers from the very beginning.
That, and they shouldâve kept servers Vanilla-size.