Yeah, horde spreading out on several servers already dominated by horde would fix things… 
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Well I can say for sure that the horde that moved is nowhere close to the amount of alliance. Went to Org last night at 1:15am. Lots of horde in Org and over 18k auctions in the AH.
I really doubt the reason horde is this much more populated is due to minmaxers chasing racials. I’ve also always loved the feel of horde races. Playing them makes me even more feel like im living in some fantasy world. Anyways goddamm you are a toxic and subjectively thinking person. Your posts gives the exact impression that you think horde players look like some sadistic psychopaths.
No point in wasting time talking with you as you have such subjective way of thinking which also seems to be fueled by negative feelings.
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@Vidius
I’m from Shazzrah. 12k Horde vs 2k Ally.
Belive me, from Thorium Point to BRD ppl are getting 20-30 kills on their way.
All FP are camped, ships and dungeon instances, even Black Lotus spots…
It’s happend in Phase 2 and going to be worst. Guess why? Ppl calls WOW Classic “Ghost Simulator”, “Ghost maraton”… Everyday some1 is leaving game. Not server, because Activision bloked transfer for Ally, so ppl said simply ENOUGH, they have own businesses, famillys and just CAN’T waste 40-50 min to get inside MC or BRD. It’s waste of their time by stupid Horde players who knows 8:1 ratio and still doing corpse camp instead of nice PvP like we did before Phase2: group vs group somethere near instances or farm spots. Now it looks exacly like sadistic psychopaths who wont allow Ally to do anything.
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As much as people like to underline it on these forums, Horde players are not at fault here.
They abused the advantage given to them by Blizzard failing to implement faction caps, it’s that simple. I would have done it if I could as well. The Flamelash situation is just a foreshadow of what’s to come because even without tranfers, the realm would have ended up 95-5.
Servers which are 70-30, will eventually become 80-20 and 80-20 will become 90-10 etc. The inevitable result of the failure to implement faction cap, allow PvP to PvE transfers or even a simple faction queue, will lead to the MAJORITY of servers becoming 95-5 in the end.
Flamelash is the first in a long, long line. It doesn’t matter if it’s Horde or Alliance, the dominating faction will make the game unplayable for the other side. WPvP is about who has more numbers, it’s that simple. As much as Rogues and Mages like to thump their chests, WPvP is not about skill, it’s about numbers and everyone knows it. You fight 5v5 then you fight 10v10 if it becomes 10v15, you lose and there’s no way to turn the tide if you do not have more people to help you.
Mark my words or in this case post, this is just the beginning and if Blizzard doesn’t actually do something, Flamelash 2,3,4,etc are coming in the very near future to a server near you or your own.
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@Kurvar
You are right Mate, but Blizzard knows that all. And see what’s going on.
BUT Activision needs Classic UNHAPPY players to switch for Retail, but it’s not going to happend! Never. And here we are. They simply don’t belive in us, and all we want it’s to play Classic, not Retail. Ppl will just leave WoW and that’s it, they wont switch Classic for Retail. That’s why Classic it’s not finished STILL! There is no connection to BLizz services, BLizz store etc. The only thing they implement to old Vanilla Code it’s free migration from user interface. There is tools for GMs to do anything with our Classic accounts. It’s not exist in Classic. For Activision vision, Classic was the way to makes ppl get back to Retail, that’s why Classic isn’t a single tittle game, it’s only free expansion to Retail. Nothing more atm. Social experiment? - HELL YES! And it’s working, but it’s only a masquerade for sneaky and stupid plan: feeling bad in Classic? GO BACK TO RETAIL!
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Blizz need ruin classic before new retail expansion, only logic reason for this BS free transfers.
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only options for horde were to transfer to earthshaker (also horde majority, so more of the same but lower pop) or to dead servers
not going to transfer to a 2k pop realm when i want to play the game until end of progression im afraid, lots of people feel this way, if you gave them the chance to transfer to a more ally favoured non dead server maybe you would see a difference
oh wait there arent any
hence this loop we are stuck in…we need one way faction changes and faction queues ideally, or maybe let horde transfer zt, but it will only help a tiny bit lol its the only ally majority pvp out of all of them
@Shubb
I was thinking about Horde queue with 10% tolerance, but it will makes Horde cry to BLizzard. For example on my server 2k Allt vs 12k Horde - So 2k Ally online, 2,2-2,5k Horde online and 10k in line? Impossible.
The only way make it happend, and right its limited numer of users on each realm by ratio H to A, and max 5-6k ppl on each one.
And ReRoll option to heal balance and make ppl to play, not staying in queue.
BG’s queue will show how big problem with sick ratio we have. Without CrossRealm BGs Horde will never get high PvP rank on dominated servers like mine.
yes people will cry so thats why you offer them to change faction until balanced, i would and many others would, im also on shazzrah
also they will get high rank because its based on your standing, if everyone on horde gets poor honor/hr you can still rank 14 its just mind numbingly boring having to corpse camp people in world while waiting for 2hr queue to pop
saying reroll is fine, but without incentive via queues i wont because whats to say more alliance dont quit? or blizz open transfers again and they leave? theres nothing that guarantees im not completely wasting my time by rerolling as no server is safe from being ruined like flamelash currently; also if i rerolled alliance it wouldnt be on shazzrah anyway lol so it doesnt help much imo
And it’s last call for Shazzrah. Not many Ally left on server. It’s not hard to quit game now. Was much harder - as decision - month ago, before Honor System. Now it’s verry resoneable to stop playing, becouse of wasting time every evening in ghost form. Sad but true. Activision can’t face that. So blind politics.
yeah so ive been running census horde side daily and someone i know runs alliance side daily its been 60:40 for weeks, last couple days its dropped 67:33… dropping super fast idk what else can be done than faction changes, open ally transfer to alliance maybe but noone will come lol
Anyway the best solution would have been to also bring at least wsg only at the start of p2 that way the massive grifing and fp ganging would never have happened. And later on ofc they could bring up the free transfer. Me and many more would just que form wsg and thats it. Allies could easily do their pve thing on a pvp server and all would have been fine. But no. Its just blizzard wants to fu.k up classic so people start playing on retail again. But it wont happen. I started wow again only to play classic. And i will only play classic until servers dont exist anymore. Ofc i wont lie ill give a chance on the new xpac. Ill buy it ill level up and if i am happy with what they made i will play but same time ill continue playing classic. And if xpac sucks no problem ill stick with playing classic only untill i gear up full all classes all chars to the max. End of story. Blizzard have to understand that.
You are right.
But Shazzrah it’s too big even atm. Was much bigger in September and that is also problem. It’s not right way to get more and more ppl here, even to Ally side, Horde needs to leave Shazzrah or reroll, BLizzard knew that becouse of free char transfer for Horde only, but looks like no1 of Horde used… Instead of it another 7% Ally quit as You said. And I’m expecting more and more will do the same in next 2-3 weeks.
2 hours queue for Horde in BGs? I’d say… 4+ and no option to character transfer anymore. And no Ally to camp in Open World…
That’s your fault, silly cowards. Instead of massively transfering to low pop servers, you should have stayed and fight back.
you could argue, that its your fault as well, for fighting in the first place, because you are to many horde…
But honestly, you can say its alliance fault, hordes fault or blizzards fault… but the truth is, its just the nature of the game - as long as blizzard has no mechanics that prevent this.
In retail they made every Activity available across servers - while in reality nearly every server is dominated by 1 faction.
And with warmode and variable Bonus depending on A/H Ratio its working quite decent i guess.
I don’t even know where to begin with this, other than you appear to be an idiot.
well others maybe should transfer from shazzrah to other servers but I cant do that. I in guild use council loot system and I reach high ranks at guild for non stop raiding for 3 months and if I leave without my guild now, I have to start from begining with new guild…
It litterly got a butten “free migratiom” when in champ sellect.