At least from a personal standpoint, store mounts provide no benefit other than a flying doggo, metal horse, etc, they are of the same speed as every other mount at max riding proficiency same goes for Mogs, mogs are but cosmetics, purchase them if you want to, they only add “flavor” to something that holds no stats.
So in short: If it’s for cosmetic purposes, then it harms no one.
If it provides “stat” buffs, more speed, etc, then THAT becomes a problem, but since it doesn’t, it’s more than justified, a choice of purchase.
Some people pay their sub with in-game gold, so they don’t get anything from people like that. Nothing wrong them wanting to make some money, it’s a company. This is content that you’re not forced to buy.
And… this is where they get you. Unless you’re really good at farming gold some of the rep mounts are pretty pricey. I was a collector but since BFA the gold prices just really turned me off bothering.
Don’t get me wrong it’s nice we do have other “free” mounts in the game, but I think the rep should be the cost.
If I remember right, people use that system to buy gold with real money, no? And gold in OS Runescape counts for much more than it does in WoW.
Here’s an interesting question - how would Blizz adjust the game’s monetization system for inflation? $15 in 2004 is equal to $21 now. Just to be equal in value to its cost at launch, WoW needs to cost $21/month. They found another way to account for inflation that seems to work.
Business models that do not account for inflation are always going to fail. Netflix knows this, so they have already normalized making the service more expensive to keep up with inflation.
It’s a slippery slope and a dumb feature that shouldn’t exist at all.
You don’t seem to mind that the games you play are taken over by corporate greed, I know.
I don’t even play final fantasy. I don’t care for it. It looks worse than WoW.
You people always assume things to win your argument, but none of you people can really justify that you’re paying to play said product, and get double charged for a mount on top.
You don’t even own those mounts. They’re virtual pixels that you rent from Blizzard. How do you justify that? Do tell.
Because you pay to have access to Blizzard’s servers, nothing else.
Paying a monthly subscription to access said servers does not entitle you to anything else. These mounts are an extra commodity that you simply don’t have to pay for.
They are mindless consumers. Conditioned and brain washed over their entire lives to never question and only spend. They’ll also flock to defend corporations while at the same time crying about environment and wealth inequality.
I don’t mind extras on the store as long as they’re cosmetic. I do think char boosts, and some other stuff crossed the line of that though.
I do also mind when the shop mounts are exclusive models, only able to be earned from purchasing… Along with often them being higher quality mounts, or higher quality variations of another mount.
I would also like to see such money earned from things being put towards things I do want, art/design wise which was more customization options for a lot more races than they did. Wanted to see other races get as many cool new options as Orcs did and certain ones not being left to rot like Nightborne and LFD.
Store mounts would be fine if wow had a lot of good content and cool mounts to farm. Usually store mounts are better quality than terrible 9 reskins of a boar mount hidden behind 1% drop rate.
The problem with this argument is that how do you justify doing anything in this game then? You don’t own anything and none of your accomplishments are yours, they’re blizzards.
Like I personally said before and will say it again:
All those mounts, pets, mogs? All cosmetic in the grand scheme of things, they provide NO advantage whatsoever in the game.
It’s not an “excuse”, it’s not us being “brainwashed”, it’s none of that. those items are ALL optional stuff for FLAVOR.
See the marble mounts? Guess what, they’re just a RESKINNED version of what you can buy ingame for a few… 10 gold? 100g? Whatever, been a while since I checked the prices on those mounts ingame, they offer NO advatange, they aren’t FASTER than any of the mounts as the mount speed is based on your Riding proficiency.
Right now, and I say this in no offense mate, you’re really not getting the concept between “P2W” and just “Optional Cosmetics”, because to me, by the whole thread, you were expecting people to be these “anti-corporate” mob that would rally up against Blizzards “ever so greedy” (Let’s face it, they are as any other company, but hey, money makes the world go round sadly) corporate decision.
I’m not defending it, I’m just accepting it, why? Because I know I’m not going to buy any of those mounts unless it’s a gift to a friend or if I just decided to look fancy on a heavy metal spiky horse that flies at the same speed at my other mounts.
So heres an example: Blizzard now brought in… Frostmourne as a weapon mog.
Would you consider it a “P2W” product or just a cosmetic item? I’ll repeat the item itself: FROSTMOURNE AS A WEAPON MOG (A cosmetic ILLUSION with no advantage or stats)
Its pretty simple. Its because it works. Blizzard is a company and as a company their goal is to earn money. Adding stuff to the store sells and thus gives more profit. Since when does a company has to justify their goal to earn money? They provide a service people are prepared to pay for.
Why do people still use expensive private vehicles when there already is public transport? Exactly: prestige - and because it looks cooler, but no one forces you to have your own car.
Although, that metaphor is rather lacking… let me reformulate: why do people drive an expensice car instead of a cheap one that works just as well? Same answer.
It’s your right to complain about the shop, but what others people do is none of your business.
Does this ring any bells ? " One person’s freedom ends where another’s begins"
Dislike the shop ? Don’t use it, but don’t attack others for doing so as it’s their right as paying customers to decide if they want to buy them. They don’t owe you anything and you have no right to decide what they can or can’t do.
Back on topic tho :
You pay for the game and you got it.
We have more mounts added each patch in the game, with more high quality new models than we used to. Some of the mounts have very unique effects but a good part of them are just preview of future content (the BFA blue dragon was merely a SL mob model, same happened for legion and wod iirc)
From my pov these mounts are additional content, beyond what we would have expected from the sub in the past. If that’s how Blizz intent to monetize their game then that’s a harmless way to do it.
As for your “rights” as a mount collector don’t make me laught, it’s easier to farm gold and get a store mount than getting some of the hardest mounts in the game. I have 3 or 4 store mounts, all bought with wow tokens. Cost me less than some of the gold mount currently in game.
By the way dear collector, where’s your long boi ? A time exclusive mount should’ve been a bigger concern than the shop isn’t it ?
On that topic tho, did they change their mind on “You can only copy 1 char classic and any others will cost you 20€” ?
May have misread that mtx but it sounded pretty bad
Its an entirely optional e-shop for customers who may want to buy items for purely cosmetic use in game.
You were right with the word simple, just not in the right context, because if you actually believe what you wrote after, then this was purely a bait thread designed to
A.Validate you with other people commenting that the shop should be removed because it gives people an advantage (it doesn’t)
B. Just bait people who actually know what the purpose of the shop is for.
Put this person in category B, and more to the point, actually knows what the store is for and who it is targetted at. Its called “business”
Pu this person in category A. No it does NOT affect gameplay, unless you take it to the extreme of someone buying a shedload of tokens so they can buy enough gold to deck themselves out in the highest level boe’s, and buy enough mythic raid boosts to fully equip themselves. THEN you may be justified in claiming the store promotes a Buy to win culture, but if anyone is actually daft enough to burn money like that then you wouldn’t be able to stop them even if the store was removed. They’d just buy gold from gold sites.
And why would you do that? Do you know the other person? Do you know their income and if buying a $20 mount will force their family to eat bread rinds for a week? Do you know their reasons? If you can answer yes to all those questions then you MAY be justified, but unless you are the conservator of their finances they can spend their money on whatever they want. Like you can funnily enough.
Yep.
You do and you do get that entitlement. You just can’t seem to understand, or more likely want to misunderstand deliberately, that the shop items are completely optional and are no way shape or form essential.
When we compare the number of store mounts to the number of mounts in-game it’s even more ridiculous how petty and silly the “outrage” over the in-game store is. It wouldn’t concern me in the slightest if the in-store mounts were available in-game. An extra 8 mounts to look for? Woohoo…
Try being a game developer then come back.
Except they’re not and you know that, you’re just trying to validate yourself and failing. Unless a Blizzard employee is standing behind you with a gun at your head shaking you down until you buy everything in the store then the only thing you can expect from Blizzard is that you fill in their expectations and continue to pay for access to the Blizzard World of Warcraft servers. The fact you may buy a few OPTIONAL items from an OPTIONAL store page is irrelevant as long as you continue to pay for access.
No they’re not.
Of course they are. They are a business. They want your money. Like every other business in the world. When you goto a store and buy some food do you throw your items to the floor in disgust and loudly decalre “THIS STORE IS GREEDY!” when you see them promoting an item with an in store promotion? “Buy our new limited edition bread and enter a competition to win a car!” raging at the assistants who are trying valiantly to point out that you don’t NEED to enter the competition to buy the bread…
Oh well that’s it then. If an NPC, (remember that word, NPC, it means NON PLAYABLE CHARACTER) has the mount then all players should have it too.
No they’re not, you just want them to because you have a beef about the ingame store
But in essence you are, because you don’t like them being in the store and not in game.
You’re basically complaining that someone can buy an entirely optional item and immediately get it in game, rather than paying Blizzard a subscription and grinding for what could essentially be months and in some cases years for it. Mount collectors make up a very small percentage of the wow player base, and most mount collectors I know aren’t going to panic over a couple of mounts being only available in-store, they’ll likely snap them up soon as they appear and thank the lord above they are (insert number here) closer to hitting their next meta level.
You keep using this same argument and you fall at every hurdle by your stubborn refusal to just accept that the in-store is entirely optional and has no bearing on the game whatsoever. Im rapidly coming to the conclusion your entire problem is just jealousy.
First time I have ever heard that. If it was then that would be the most boring mount ever considering it was a golden circle that magically spawned a Dragon’s head that shot out a Death Star laser like beam.
Again, no it’s not. A mobile game? That’s some desperate reaching there son.
You didn’t prove anything, except that people hold the belief that “it’s my money, I’ll spend it how I want” You just don’t want to talk to them because your basic argument is “I don’t want an in game shop because… because…”
Boom.
Level boosters just get you to max level. That’s all they do. You still need to hard work.
You know what I’m gonna say next right? OPTIONAL!
You can dress them up in any old skin you want if you think it will add substance to your empty argument but no matter how many times you repeat line about |“valiant defense” it won’t make the slightest difference in the basic rule of money, in that because it’s THEIR money, they get to spend it how they like whether you like or not. Who are you who thinks they get to dictate what others spend their money on? Can we do the same for you?
if someone wants to buy a space shuttle good luck to them. its their money. Won’t affect me in the slightest, unless of course when they launch it, it destroys my house.
Yup.
Experiment 12B reskin of the blue/albino/ etc mounts.
Blazing Drake and Life binder’s handmaiden, both reskins of above but with a different head.
It was a dragon’s head in a golden circle that spat out a draconic beam. That’s all I saw, nothing to jump on the back of and fly around.
Pretty much.
So… Basically you have them no one else should kinda thing? Or is there some other point you basically shot down yourself by saying you bought ALL the store mounts and there shouldn#t be any. Why did you buy them in the first place?
I think Daestra’s point is that it was never available in-game.
No you want validation, there’s a difference.
Was it? Any official source from Blizzard?
So is Ultraxion. We didn’t get that either.
There is none, believe me.
Its called “buyer’s remorse”. I get it when I buy packets of cookies. It still doesn’t justify my loudly marching into TESCO and demanding the cookie aisle be closed.
Please… Don’t insult our intelligence even further.
You are able to post links, the tools are available for everyone. So you are either lying or don’t have the said sources to back up your claims. Either way… that’s not how you back up your argument that the dragon soul effect and a mount from Alagon were supposed to be in game. People like to see credible evidence before they say “yeah you’re right”
Correct. Which is standard practice for extras in video games. OPTIONAL extras in video games. If they were MANDATORY and ESSENTIAL to the game they would be in the game.
