Its starting to bother me. We cleared MC since 3rd week of classic release. We were top 5 fastest on our faction in clearing it. We have farmed it tirelessly since then and yet we still do not have a Thunderfury to show for it.
Meanwhile, objectively “worse” guilds that startet much later already have 2 Thunderfury’s. Also we have not seen a DFT drop yet and despite me having farmed the sh1t out of MC for months and months I still do not have a Onslaught Girdle to show for it.
Its starting to get on my nerves that even though our MT is doing very well and is very skilled, he is basically threatcapped with his Dagger Fury/prot tanking and because he doesnt have either DFT or Thunderfury our raid DPS is capped. An example of this is that it is hard for us to push enough damage out on Vaelstraz to kill the boss in under 45 second so the MT doesn’t get burning adrenelin.
As a guild master it feels like its been a huge grind trying to keep things together with constantly recruiting people because some stop playing (especially healers), and I really wish we would have a TF to show for our dedication and persistance.
Anyway thats just my 2 cents of salt I needed to get out of my system
How do you guys deal with bad luck for such a long time?
we just keep playing and enjoy the time together in the raid. we currently have 1 TF but we also have 0 BRE, 0 spinal. But bwl had blessed us with 2 dft and 3 styleen and even 1 gem.
Go less hardcore and just enjoy the social element, that’s my advice as lootmaster in a lc guild.
Agree, something is broken (
many many many (A LOT) guilds have same loot over and over and over (ALWAYS). There is still a lot of thing in MC that NEVER droped for our guild as well, and other good things droped like once or twice.
30+ MCs healing pants and ring droped once. I was looking for full T1 set (just for lols tho), but after 30+ MCs chest/legs never droped and so on…
Not to talk about runing Stratholme UD for for 96 times and healing neck never droped…
There is some bug in RNG code 
yeah its insane. we had other people loot 2 bindings in same raid, but we are even missing flameguard gaunlets and have not seen ONE SINGLE DROP in 8 months now.
like wtf? should be pretty common drop given it drops from multiple bosses. Meanwhile we get these sh1tty resistance items in BWL and resistance wand in MC
What I saw early on with MC is the stronger guilds start doing runs with fewer people so their loot chances improve. Sometimes it isn’t about getting the fastest kill if you’re gonna clear anyway (even though some players do want to get it over with as soon as possible).
not gonna lie. if you can’t kill vael under 45s because your tank is threat capped then he’s not doing a very good job, I could (without respeccing prot) do that threat WITH a shield…
Get him to buy julie’s dagger (1.3 speed) and use heroic strike every MH hit, open GCD prio should be BT/SS > Revenge > Sunder > Shield Block (xD)
Have the tank prepop diamond flask 3s left of countdown, deathwish 1s before (if he is furyprot) and MRP almost instantly.
Yeah, call me a tinfoil hatter, but sometimes I almost feel like these loot drops are random or something.
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We suck it up. It’s one of the appeals of classic.
I agree it stings to see objectively worse players and even alts with better gear than tryhard mains. But come naxx said players can’t clear the content and you’ll pull ahead. I suppose the real issue is that the current content is too easy.
Say “good raid, guys” and try again the following week.
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he does that with Alcor Sunrazor while wearing items like onslaught Girdle etc.
You cannot compare progress to us. You guys run like 30 warriors in a raid.
don’t bother yourself much about bad loot & rng.
because even with more phase’s you will hopelessly farm mc to get TF yet it might never drop, and once you’re clearing naxx? you still might never get certain items you wish to have! while you will see people in town with those items!
the Game might die or tbc hits before you get your full naxx bis wish list Even if you’re clearing naxx since day1, Thats how the RNG system works. and the only way to deal with it is to never care, game is too old & too easy to even bother about anything in it, just play for fun 
GUYS What the fuuuk? IT JUST DROPPED!!! Bwhahaha THIS IS INSANE.
https ://imgur. com/a/fVAVx4o
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How many warriors you bring to a raid has no effect on his threat, right?
no but it affects the boss speed time since warriors are best DPS’ers 
I’ve been through this before in vanilla… waiting for bindings to drop for a cool year before it could be made you’re not that unlucky yet
Current guild is different. Got bindings to go before BWL was even released, and now have mats to make even a second Thunderfury with the game existing only a bit over half a year or so. Quite a big difference.
You’re not very lucky with bindings, but people have been unluckier still 
I feel you friend, we are in a similar place. We also are missing a lot of stuff from BWL and not only that but almost all of our warriors have blue weapons and we dropped the Eye of Sulfuras 2 weeks into BWL while we were seeing 20+ going around with that.
The only way to deal with that is just go on and get ready for the next clear.
We have a mixture of classes and kill him just over 30s mark
Being able to kill vael in less than 45 seconds has nothing to do with your tank having thunderfury or not
Loot is random, just go again next week
Yea, I think it’s not threatcap issue. Some may be threatcapped, but clearly some of DPS/tanks also underperform.
Anyway, it’s all harder without TF, be glad that for your guild Classic is a tiny bit more challenging.