thats a question now !! ppl starting make guide in youtube about hightier dps In classic !!! and there is no melee at all…
The person playing warrior now in tbc will stay on warrior ? or u guys will switch in different classs that what i see in our guild or our realm ppl already start lvling warlocks and hunters…
the melee players will have bad time in tbc?
THE ANSWER IS YES
Becuase alot ppl and guilds lf for meta : imagine u will see bunch of hunters and warlocks in every single raid …
alot ppl have this questions ?!and they dont know what to do in tbc cuz they watch guides … and in guides there is no good news about ur melee class …
thats why i create that topic to clear the mist behind guides and answer this questions …
They do not do comparable damage to hunters and warlocks, although rogues can come close in t6 with glaives.
A lot of the bosses heavily favor ranged due to their mechanics that are very melee unfriendly, which make it much easier to stack ranged that take less damage.
Less raid damage = less healers needed = More dps = faster kills.
It completly possible clear everything with more melee heavy raid comp, but it will be both harder and slower.
The hunter and warlock stacking is very powerfull.
true …
But if u like playing Warrior or rouge will not find a spot in good guild…
and my question: ppl will stack alot warlock and hunter in raid? no melee at all
? ofc there will maybe 1 arms or ret for the Benefit but in general - ppl will suffer for that thing and finding spot as melee will more painful cuz rouges and warriors are every where - and like u said spots will fit with locks and hunters
There are many kinds of guilds out there, some care about minmaxing, some do not.
You will definatly have a easier time to find a guild as one of the classes / specs that are more desired. But it’s not impossible to find a guild as a warrior and rogue.
Arms warrior have a raidspot in most raid groups, but just a single one.
If you are minmaxing tbc raid composition, you are building your group around hunter and warlock stacking + tank threat. Rest of the raidspot go towards buffing these.
Pretty much every class is represented in such a setup. (except for rogue until t6 where one might be brought)
Rogue and fury warrior have nothing but pure dps to add to a raid group, which is lacking to begin with.
Ret paladin, arms warrior, enchance shaman and a feral druid(that is a offtank and dpsing when not tanking) is the only melee that you bring really. Even the enhance shaman can be replaced if you put a resto shaman to totemtwist instead.
i remeber every raids have 2 arms or rouges and raids not gonna be so hard just like classic …
And is playstyle If ur good melee like warrior u will have spot 100% cuz i remeber alot top guild have really great warrior soo ppl shouldnt panic if ur good player and have confidence dont worry role as anything u want man
Things will be very different in this TBC compared to TBC back in the days.
Back then classes were constantly changed, so noone knew what would be the next “OP” class. With a remake, unless Blizzard decide to do some kind of class balancing, all top end guilds will be focusing on the meta, thus melee will get the short end of the stick.
Class stacking hunters and warlocks didnt begin until sunwell(ish) due to class changes and theorycrafting, thus most guilds in a middle high to middle, did not bother changing out most of their roster for a meta.
There has been 14 years since TBC released, everything have been theorycrafted to death.
Noone should panic, there is raidspots if you are a skilled player, but there is a limit to the amount of skilled players playing the “wrong” class you can bring before you make things more difficult than you can handle.
If you love the class, play it. But people should be aware of that picking them might cause difficulties in finding a guild to raid with, or we will have a situation like with ret paladins in Classic, people being told to play what they wanted despite the communities warnings, and ending up not getting to play at all.
And then 2 enhs and 2 retris and 2 furies and 2 cats? That’s not gonna work. But ye, can totally have e.g. 2-1-1-1-1 or 1-1-1-1-1-1 of every melee (total 6). Maybe even 2-2-1-1-1-1 (total 8) if you really stretch it.
i didnt say 2of each melee but total 5melee will be in raids maybe 2warrior or rouge depend on guild and play style – if ur value to guild ofc u will get spot man
Be ready to see a lot of ranged, we saw how the meta went in classic where we stacked Warriors and Rogues, TBC is the opposite, whilst Rogue’s and Warriors are decent in PvP, they drop off in PvE, Hunters/Locks are the go to ranged classes, they will likely be stacked heavily that’s for sure, they do too much damage not to really.
However, I’m sure there will still be guilds and pugs that won’t mind too much and will still bring most classes.
A lot of the fotm warriors of Classic will be rerolling, mostly because they wont have a choice. Demand for warriors will be way lower than the supply.
I personally will be sticking to my warrior though, it’s the class I’ve played every expansion, although I may reroll to enhancement shaman in WoTLK (WoTLK Enh is one of the most entertaining specs I’ve ever played)
Umm no. Range classes start at higher dps numbers from Kara and stay higher at all phases till warglaives. You don’t want to start with a melee heavy group. Because at start, crafted gear for casters and hunter’s blue dungeon set are superior and far better than anything melees can get.
Of course “play what you want” is the way to go. But beware, you should be a competitive player to get a spot in raid as melee and have to put more effort on gear/gameplay to compete with 1 button smashers.
I play Rogue/Thief class and will do so in TBC. If I am not viable and do not get a raid spot then I wont bother with TBC and play Vanilla on a Pserver.
Or maybe even Wrotlk - or if there is somewhere with Cata 5 mans as the released pre nerf maybe I’ll try that. Those pre-nerf Cata 5 mans were pretty good but only existed for such a brief time frame. Rest of Cata sucked though
If Rogue ends up being completely undesirable in TBC raids then I will consider TBC an inferior version of the game - you can fault Vanilla for some things, but at least every class gets a raid spot (more than one, too), even if not all specs are viable.
Classic has been much more harsh on the sub-optimal classes than TBC ever will be, you’re totally fine with missing some classes completely much more so than in TBC. It’s because you need to fill 40 raid spots you get to see any diversity. Expect the actual differences between the best and worst performing classes/specs in tbc to be lower than in classic.
But ye, now it’s finally time for rogues and warriors to be benched for once.
Back in the old days “meme-specs” suffered from the bad reputation they got in vanilla. We now know the value of 5%crit spells/physical, bloodlust, +hit. And ferals, elementals, enhance etc. will see a way brighter future. I really think we still will have a few rogues and warrior dps. The whole “no rogues in raid” meta is overrated. Sure, the might do worse in tbc. But still i’d rather take a big pp rogue slapper than a lazy macrospamming hunter any day of the week. I see players, not only classes and specs.
Look, most players aren’t that tryhard. Even in classic we have the “bad speccs” in raids that clear Naxx, what makes you think that this will change in TBC? Just the classes/speccs change that are good/bad with TBC.
If you want to play “bad speccs” then just don’t expect to be in the most tryhard speedrun raid. For every normal group it won’t matter.
