I don't get it

So player activity dropped immensely shortly after TBC’s first few weeks.
People ran of to play FFXIV with their favorite streamers and a relative small percentage remains playing TBC or vanilla.

And for some reason this dying community thinks it’s a genius 500IQ idea to keep killing any pve content level 16-58 by constantly selling and or buying boost.

I couldn’t find a group for either any of the SM dungeons , RFD or Mara.

1-60 dungeons are dead and killed by you, the community.

You’ve succesfully succeeded to destroy any interest a new player might have in stregthening and broaden this dying community.

People aren’t playing classic to have a single player experience all the way to max.
People that are new can’t afford boost prices.

So you’re like okay guys: Player numbers are dropping, how can we succesfully kill the game we enjoy playing? Kill group pve and exclude it to 24/7 neckbeards with disposable gold. Great idea! let’s do that!

Now I can afford a few boosts, but I’m paying to be subscribed in order to play the game.
Not to have some Andy that can’t kill a few mobs of his own level in order to obtain valueable items to make a profit, in a game with basically only 1 game play type : apply face to keyboard lean right and back to your left rinse and repeat. Play the game for me.

I know right, shocking! I want to play the game myself.
But I can’t because you won’t let me.

Either due to you being too lazy or lacking the skills to clear 1-60 group pve contnet.

It’s also hilarious that when you’re adressing this issue in any public chat all the classic Andy’s retaliate with insults and rage and I’m guessing they’ll be here too.

Some one even told me to quit the game, proving my point you killing your own game.

So kudos guys!

Keep it up!

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I feel you… i have the same opinion.
Unfortunately the mindset of the majority of the gaming community (not only wow…) changed in that direction.
Running low level dungeons and having fun just playing the game isnt number one priority for these kind of player types.

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I guess being on an empty realm has it’s disadvantages. Low really does mean low population on Classic Era.

A bit of research is needed before playing.

even with mage boosting i used to be able to find dungeon groups easy, no issue, the world was active, even group quests was easy to do,

its the 58 store boost, go to hellfire and look at how many boosted characters are there, its insane, why pay for a mage boost all the way to 58 when you can do it with a click of a button??

yeah mage boosting sucked because it encouraged gold buying, etc

but the 58 is the reason why you and myself because i still level through the world, are struggling to get groups,
not to mention the botting issue has gotten far worse since the boost

That is why playing on smaller realms is key. There you will not just be a “mage, hunter”… but a real person for those around you.

I am having a great time on my realm now, much more than during any moment of classic before. We are a tiny community and sometimes need to look for a few minutes to find someone for our adventures, but we are able to actually play this game again.

My advice, join a realm with a reroll project play there and just ignore what happens on retail or tbc right now.

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I mean, not even many people ran these dungeons in classic.
Most people are either playing other games with raid logging / not leveling anymore.
Back in original TBC, people kept joining.
Whilst in this TBC, we’re losing players rather than gaining them.

To be honest, who wants to play with weakminded people that dont play for the joyment?

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Are you suggesting people should play the way that you want, so that you can get the enjoyment you want? at the expense of what the other player wants?

seems pretty selfish to me.

Are you suggesting that killing your own game is more important than discussing alternatives?

Good question, at this point I’m more motivated to unsubscribe and play something else.
If I want to play a single player warcraft experience I’ll play the warcraft 3 campaign.

I’m actually on Ashbringer the only active and balanced pvp realm, according to research before creating my character.

Quite a few people dislike levelling for the 175th time, they pay to skip it so they can do the bit they enjoy. Usually endgame PVE and PVP content.

That you expect them to do what you enjoy or they’re playing it wrong and hurting the game is quite a selfish take. Frankly when i level a toon IDGAF how empty the world is, im racing to get it over and done with and uncontested quest areas help with that.

dear donaldtusk,

multiple times you have accused people of being selfish, you then go on to say " IDGAF how empty the world is" you can see how that makes you look, i mean get a grip of yourself,

im getting a lot of ME MYSELF and I from reading what you say, im not going to google the exact definition of selfish but it’s pointing in that direction, which leads you to look like a “hypocrite” just saying

FRANKLY a lot of players still want to socialise in open world and do content, just because YOU are anti-social and YOU are done with it doesnt NOT mean we are,

before trying to slate people for being “selfish” take a look at what you are saying

p.s if someone has levelled 175 times then they should get their own NPC in the game

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You need to have enemy that attacked your beloved game don’t you ? I’ve quit WoW and never touched FFXIV, Pathfinder WotR just released and thats where I’ve “ran of to”.

Yea totaly not a fault of boost. It’s not like if new player login and see constant spam in chat of gold sellers and that there is not a single soul in vanilla content they just leave. MMOs with 500 active players feels more alive than WoW currently.

Nah, we didn’t kill WoW. We just don’t want to play with corpse, it’s kinda gross.

Hey Fifty. I don’t recall ever telling people how they should play, if I did I’m genuinely sorry imo people should be free to play the game how they like.
Nobody playing the game owes anyone else playing their favourite experience, those who wish to level in the world can and should, those who wish to skip the old content also have that ability.

Actually, that’s not really how a good multiplayer game is supposed to work.
In a good multiplayer game, everyone is supposed to play and compose with the same rules and the exact same constraints.

The idea that everyone can do immediatly what they want, when they want, among a large number of different activities, doesn’t work for a interesting multiplayer experience.
It allows however to create the feel of a giant amusement park where very few people are connected to each other.

So if some players can afford buy a boosted character while some others can’t, then the game becomes bad as a multiplayer game.

58 boost is what damaged TBC the most along with Blizzard stance on not adding servers where you start from scratch.

It’s not a subject to debate on, people will always take a shortcut if you give them an apportunity, and with level boost that declares that endgame is where the real game is, Blizzard got exactly what they were asking for, immense amount of sub drops in exchange of short-term profit.

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it looks like many wow players doesn’t want to play the game!
-some are just racing over 16years old game to achieve what they failed to achieve in the past.
-some are just playing to get in real life money out of this game if “boosters(raid boost/arena boost or w/e boosts) who sell gold or people who farm & also sells the gold”
-some people just enjoy the pve (raids only) but they don’t want to level up or farm, so they just buy the service boosts ingame & buy gold then they become raid loggers!
-and some who try the game & quit once he/she realize how ugly this game is, filled with too many problems which drive away players.

I personally believe this is not a game for entertainment or social activity anymore! as it used to be, Now it’s just all about real money trade & kids doing speed runs in outdated game with no future, and eventually? we all are going to quit.

-in original TBC, people played the game in thrilling of the incoming future patchs and game numbers kept growing because players wasn’t quitting as they aimed to keep playing for many reasons!, But now in TBC-C? everyone already knows what is coming and almost no one is willing to stay playing the game! they just want to complete it, i think thousands will quit in p5 believing that they finished it and no point in playing.

Maybe try classic vanilla wow.

The community is growing fast. All servers are currently shared including a shared AH and shared guilds so there are basically just 3 realms: 1 big PVP, 1 big PVE and 1 big RP.

Tonight we had over 120 players online in the level range of 1-20 all lvling the normal way. It took me aprox 15 mins to find a DM group.

Boosting has starved out because there aren’t any gold sellers left. The whole gold selling & buying meta went to TBC classic. There are neither any min maxers left so the experience overall feels less rushed and a lot more healthy it brings back that RPG feeling cus you have to farm most mats etc yourself. The community is very helpful and friendly also.

Tbh it actually feels like fresh I haven’t had this much fun since classic vanilla release. LFG chat is constantly making BFD, RFD, SM and ZF groups. Guilds are doing MC and there are a couple guilds doing Nax with some weird meme spec setups. I am playing on the PVE realm which is pyrewood village, mirage raceway and Nethergarde keep.

I checked the PVP and RP combined servers they are quite dead so it’s probably best to start your new char on the PVE combined realm.

Super fun overall !

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I very recently did Deadmines, Stockades, BFD and Gnomer on my medium-to-low pop server. Yes, it took some whispering, and like the half of online players in the level range were in the group. No, it’s not impossible.

I agree that it’s sad that people prefer to get AFK/$$ boosted rather than playing the game, but that’s just people, hard to resist taking the easy route. Their loss…

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I agree, OP.

I guess us boomers of the old world (of warcraft) need to wake up and smell the coffee.
The post-WotLK WoW players (and gamers in general) are just a different breed that wants instant gratification, as well as min-maxing to the point where a game based around the social aspect of a community becomes a game based on time and numbers, totally killing the original source of fun in the game we played back in the day. Sounds a lot like Retail.

Anyway, I’ll get my walking stick and I’ll head out for a grandpa walk with the dog.

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I’m looking forwards to my own NPC someday soon :slight_smile:

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