I don't want my sub money to go towards creating new store mounts

Lol you are Jesus or something ? :smiley: you can’t even leave your house with this attitude :smiley: You wanna say that ads on tv, billboards, radio , on yt,twitch are not type of exploiting to boost sells of company ? :smiley:

If you never exploit something or someone you are hypocritical azzhole… rlly, like you never used for example public transport without paying ticket…

I never said I wasn’t.

I don’t get it either. I can only guess it’s people who rely on money from their parents

Sure, gift it to me whenever and I’m happy to decline it. I ain’t a fake troll and I stand by my words.

Blizzard’s at a point in time that they failed miserably with BFA. They lost a lot of players due to how garbage the content was. The income is low. But they understand that they screwed up and tried to fix things as much as they could which is what we got in 8.2. It’s not the best patch ever, but it’s far better than what it used to be and i’m pretty sure it’ll get even better in 8.3 and 9.0. The thing is, now they’re in a point that’s between massive failure and trying to get back up with much less income. So they go and try these cheap things such as store mounts and subscription mounts and new shiny arena toys, etc. To increase their income. You gotta realize blizzard’s a company. Not a charity.

I would totally be with you, if one of these 2 cases happened.

1- expansion was doing well and they still did a lot of shop mounts which would have been too greedy.

2- Expansion wasn’t improving and instead it was only about these mounts.

It’s neither of these cases. They’re trying. They are actually listening and they did some great things with 8.2. But creating new and good content won’t immediately result in money. These mounts on the other hand, do.

So while it’s shameful and bad for a game like wow to be doing it, At this point in time, it’s a necessary evil. At least as long as they’re actually trying on improving the game as well.

Atleast now nobody else has to get a headache since he deleted all of his messages it seems like…

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Well yeah, store sales boost profits and or patch failures.
In that sense it’s kinda good to have some additional sales to carry financially a failing expansion.
Obviously we would prefer them to not having to do that.

If we’re optimistic of course and say they need that additional revenue to keep wow going. Which would be the case if activision could not take a hit to profits.

My dilemma is that I am against the shop, but i like the shop.
I have no problem buying stuff i want, but that is the problem in itself, from enabling the practice which in the long run tends to get worse, and thank god at least wow’s mtx’s didn’t yet go absolutely bonkers and I don’t know who is holding the line at bliz, but I’d tell them “thank you fo doing your best”. To the fact that it’s unhealthy to get caught in this marketing garbage and it costs money too.

In my personal case at least i don’t like anything in the store, but I did spend lotta cash on character services.

I do think that if the game was doing extremely well and not operate on the addictive nature of mmos alone, I’d have much less problem with buying extra cosmetics, but we all know that gaming industry would much prefer to spend less and get more in return. After all, making 6 store mounts costs much less than having to pay 800 people their salary, eh?

I might just be dumb, but I actually don’t like essences. Benthic gear only works in nazjatar and EP.

It’s not worthwhile and a bad catch-up mechanic if you can even call it that

I hate grinding the new reps, 8 factions and having to have exalted with every single one is horribly numb and painful.

Only thing I really liked is the Mechagon instance, I like long dungeons.

Alts are still unplayable and PvP is dead because of having to do PvE to play PvP and no gear vendors.

I really don’t know how it got better after 8.2, but that might just be me.

Mechagon. Mechagon is the reason I log in to the game. I wish we had more mechagons, on a bigger scale. We’ll see what 9.0 brings, but I bet if we are going to see more zones like this, we’d have to wait for the expac after 9.0

I don’t really feel mechagon myself, I like the theme and all but the place is confusing and I don’t know what else is there to do than grind rep.

The crafting doesn’t give good gear or anything. What people find so enjoyable in that place.

I really don’t think toys would sell as well as mounts do.

But at the end of the day mounts are just cosmetic items too. You don’t need several hundred to play the game. Just 1. Or maybe 2 if you’d count ground and flying mounts seperately. :man_shrugging:

Basically exactly that. Or at least is what I like about it.
The rep grind is usually 1 wq worth of activity for the day. Then is a quick run to hunt some rares.
The reward is just cosmetic for the most part, meaning i’d get more use from it than from an extra 10 ilvl stat stick, because cosmetics are the only thing that won’t get made absolutely irelevant by the next patch.
ANd the zone is just enjoyable to me aesthetically.
I wish it was bigger, and I wish we had more zones like that, just for fun, or challenging, or complicated. Just don’t force us to grind in them… I so don’t look forward grinding nazjatar wq’s. But at least I am hopefull we might see more complicated zones in the future.

The thing about cosmetics is that they are the only permanent reward. All gear gets irrelevant quickly, the cosmetics aren’t

So? They’re still not NEEDED to play the game.
We WANT them, but we don’t NEED them.

I really don’t see the problem with store mounts. If there’s one I like, I’ll buy it. If I don’t like it, I won’t. :man_shrugging:

Can’t tell if troll or actually serious
:thinking:

Technically we don’t even need to level, killing critters could also be concidered playing the game.

But you do level, you want more content with more rewards, you don’t NEED it, but it adds to your enjoyment and engagement. So do cosmetics.
Cosmetics shouldn’t have a “get out of jail free” card for “not affecting the game” because they do.

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Again this entitlement that seem to only affecf gamers. Blizzard and other gaming companies aren’t government and money you pay isn’t tax money that must be used for bettering your experience. Once you pay for service that money is no longer your money. Its Blizzards money to do with whatever they want.

That’s a very silly argument and I think you know that.

:man_shrugging:
Agree to disagree.

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HAHAHHA
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It’s like asking your drug dealer to buy milk and bread .
" Dear drug dealer , I am deeply concerned on the way you spend my money that i just gave you ! "

I think that the creator of this thread doesn’t understand one simple fundamental thing. Blizzard is a business. Just like Nike, Burger King etc. They make what people want to pay for. People want to buy mounts, period. If they didn’t buy them, Blizzard wouldn’t make them.

Now, what you are saying it’s the most idiotic thing I’ve heard in my life, which is, Blizzard shouldn’t make demand for their product? Are you freaking stupid or what? Why would they even in insanity do that? So they make less money? Which business in the whole universe wants to make less money? Which universe are you living at?

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Yeah. I do strongly believe in the power of cosmetics as they are probably the most improtant part of the in game rewards for me. To each their own.

I also agree with this, I wouldn’t cal this an entitlement, but you’re right, it’s their job to provide a service and the items, it’s on us to buy or not.
However, it’s perfectly alright to be against a business practice especially if you’re a customer of said business. Concerns should be voiced, even if they go ignored. And they should be challenged, because arguments only make concerns louder and are also fun to participate in.