He wasnt a robot
I guess the Nerubians and Arathi should have grit and darkness, but thing is that this is the first release after blizzcon, so everyone is looking at wow now
This is abit tinfoil hat but I genuinely think the hacks that make up âwritersâ in the main stream are the most bigoted people you will ever meet.
Think about how they handle everything, we want more women to feel included in the game, so we have to make it cutesy about picking flowers feelings and hugs. Have you every met a real woman guys our did you read a 1940âs pamphlet on what women like?
We should have more gay inclusion, well obviously we have to make every gay character flamboyant as hell because thatâs apparently how they see gay men.
We should have more female leaders, obviously that means we should attack all the male characters constantly and make them seem pathetic.
SL was not dark, for anyone who thinks it was, youâre being ridiculous it was basically hades from Disneyâs Hercules.
They canât do dark until they stop doing stupid meme and friendship is magic crap every 5m
I donât think i was the only one who felt the writers strike should have continued until the over bloated industry shed the waste that call itself writers and we can be left with people that can actually write.
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You are not alone. I used to play WoW for the lore. Now it is a comedy, I just skip every quest line and every skip-able cutscene.
I donât know if I feel that strongly, but I dislike the tropes and stereotypes too. Iâd rather they create persons first and foremost, and only then consider whether their gender, their sexual orientation, their whatever influences the storytelling in any way. In many cases it simply wouldnât.
A difficulty lies in that when you point this out, some think you mean you donât want these factors in at all. For me thatâs not the case, I simply want it to be incorporated in the story in a natural way where I donât start to resent the writers for sticking to stereotypes.
And while others may argue itâs good that the story has space for these kind of characters these days, I think asking for good storytelling as part of your representation matters a great deal too.
Yes he was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdmOGTSWdj0&ab_channel=DibuckTV
I also have the same impression as u there
Canât speak about anyone else, but I never felt excluded from the game. Having more female leads is good and all, but I never really cared about a characters sex/gender/race/sexuality/hair color/favor type of food if itâs not plot relevant, I cared if itâs written good or bad. Like I really never stopped and calculated the exact male to female ratio in any franchise in order to determine if am âincludedâ or represented enough or at all in X franchise. And speaking of WoW, it was never gender exclusive really, it never had an âonly boys are allowed to like thisâ sign.
If someone else felt excluded because they are X and not enough characters were X same as them, can you tell me what exactly is the reasoning?
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The Eternal Ones (sometimes called the Eternals [1]or lords of death )[2][3][4] are the most powerful beings in the Shadowlands[5] and rule over the realm of Death. They founded four covenants for the purpose of carrying out the many duties required to maintain their respective realms, and each one rules over one of the six main realms of the Shadowlands: Kyrestia over the kyrian and Bastion, the Primus over the necrolords and Maldraxxus, the Winter Queen over the night fae and Ardenweald, Denathrius over the venthyr and Revendreth, the Arbiter over the attendants and Oribos, and Zovaal over the Mawsworn and the Maw, which does not have a covenant as it prefers to torture souls rather than work with them.[6]
But no I canât think critically and actually understand the story must whine salty tears instead. Wah blizzard made him robot
lol the whole expansions is full of soft or whiny stuff, chars talking constantly about their feelings, crying around likeâŚ
And itâs not even that having this stuff is a problem. Itâs actually good to have a little bit of it. Itâs the sheer amount currently that makes this game into a boring child story.
Also I absolutely hate if you see pushed current things that just are done by everyone, like that Wakanda Family stuff xD or the âFemale leader empowermentâ
And again. I donât have anything against some uniting story or female chars that are leaders and very strong. Itâs the way they do it. Forced and the char often is really bad written. I donât mind if all chars are female as long as they are written well.
Nothing there really disproves he is a robot though. He was created by the cosmic 3D printer, he can be mass produced if whoever is in control of the printer wills, his body was created seperetly from his soul/OS, his body requires a soul/OS to uploaded before it can function normally, we have seen other automatons (and that is what they are calling them in game) to his post defeat model, these same automatons speak very robot like and use phrases like âProcessing viable threatâ, " Repairs needed" etc. I mean he is pretty much an terminator, a robot with an advanced AI OS covered in skin. He was not born, he was created.
And you get to be the judge of that huh?
That expansion was horribly depressing for me. From the aesthetic to the zones to the story. And you donât get to say that my feelings about that arenât legit. Period.
You have zero understanding about that strike. You just proved that with that nonsense remark.
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I mean you are free to have that opinion, someone (me) might find âMy little ponyâ depressing. Aesthetically I didnât find SL depressing, Bastion and Ardenweald in particular were retina killers, I started puking rainbows the moment I stepped into discount disneyland, ZM was pretty bright as well. I found the story to be more post-modern-nihilism-ish than depressing. Overall I was more angry in SL than depressed.
Sure, thatâs fair. I donât want âmy little ponyâ either (wouldnât call it depressing, more like irritating). But thatâs NOT whatâs happening in WoW.
People keep using these completely over the top comparisons to try and enforce their opinion. That is actually what irritates me most about threads like these.
First of all; youâre taking âdarkâ very literally here.
Bastionâs aestethic wasnât dark but the underlying story and themes DEFINITELY were.
ZM also wasnât dark, but I did not like the aesthetic of that place and I HATE the lore behind it. I donât want giant robots who program reality in WoW. I really donât.
Iâd take a thousand crying characters over that, any day of the week.
Both. Depression, anger, disappointment, annoyance.
All played major roles in SL for me.
Not that I didnât have ANY fun; I wouldnât have kept playing.
But after 2 years of that I BADLY needed a palate cleanser. And DF, for good or for worse, IS that cleanser. And I will take it.
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It was a very interesting juxtaposition wasnt it?
Bastion looked all heavenly and perfect and yet had a deeply disturbing storyline at its core.
The zone I found most wholesome and âfriendlyâ was actually Maldraxxus which looked like the inside of an open grave!!LOL
In an isolated case, sure.
But this was part of dark upon dark upon dark.
That started to wear me down, honestly.
It does feel like American writing is constraining itself too much.
Like there is a reason Japanese media pretty much drowns out American globally. It just feels like their stuff is overall more fun and vivid to read and watch than most we get from here. Even the more serious stuff.
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Ok fair, still wouldnât really call them depressing, for me at least.
Overall idk what they were going with in SL, it tried being dark and serious but it failed to hit any emotional moments for me. What I found depressing is SL was more so the destruction of previous events, the ruination of pre-established characters and Sylvanas in general.
What I am trying to say is that depression is a feeling, and SL didnât invoke any feelings in me other than anger and annoyance, and even that is due to meta reasons and particularly because of what was written but about how and why it was written. I donât really hate Sylvanas for the things she is done, I hate her because she is a very badly written character (which the lead writer has a⌠letâs preference for) that suffers from overexposure.
Big big disagree.
I hate manga and anime overal. There are very few I can appreciate.
And with live action japanese stuff: Anything thatâs âgenreâ (sci-fi, horror, fantasy) is immensely offputting to me. I can appreciate more traditional down-to-earth real world movies and such, but japanese genre stuff is -and I donât like using this word- cringeworthy 9.9 out of 10 times.
I used to hate it as well, but recent western media has been so poo that I started watching anime again, doesnât really come close to letâs say a good comic book from the 80s or 90s or the great TV shows we used to have back in the day, but itâs miles above what we are getting now from mainstream media (yes even the self insert OP isekai ones).