Problem is, a lot of people not only fail timer, but cant bypass mechanic/dps check /whatever, thus get 0 loot
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Yea that happens, saddly, ive did this raid once, with pug, half or raid did less dps than me (tank) yet we managed to one shot 5 bosses and 2shot footbal, wasnt that bad realy, its easier in raid if someone fails, u notice mistakes much more in m+
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only time m+ spam gearing is better is:
when you spam 12h/day
or when you are only doing pug raids without people trading loot to you.
Like who? LFR heroes what buy boosts and try get i to mythic? People been oneshoting mythic 15 on day 1 and walking in 464 gear 1 week into new season. Why you think we have suddenly so much rng on gesr? Yes its becouse of mythic+. Without it people would be done gearing in couple of weeks playing game on multiple characters.
Mythic+ should definitly have lock out on gear and should not be spammable at all.
Actually yes, heroic raids had been easier to me than 10+ keys with bad affixes.
M+ trivializes everything below mythic raiding. If you think +11 Freehold is harder than heroic Raden you’re delusional or lying.
Yeah sure. Whole new boss where you need 10 players and not only 5 is somehow at same level or easyer than 5 man dungeon what people farmed for 2y and only thing what changes is 1 single affix per season what you have to worrie about. Please.
Okej bro, what people exactly we talk about here? Because the very first in time +15 this season wasnt in first week, so. I doubt
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1 . the 3rd affixes can be quite the challange to most
2 . that brings me to my next point, theres no annoying affixes that can destroy your boss kills ( Plus you have infinite chances, someone will leave eventually on either content )
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On fay 1 of new season. No on day 1 of new patch. And i dobt know their names. I just randonly saw them after reset when i checjed their gear becouse their hp values were bit crazy compared to mine so i was like whats up with that.
No they are not. Non new or old affixes can stand againts whole new boss fight. And you completly ignored fact you need only 5 people from pug. There is also difficulty in running actual guild and organize minimum of 10 people.
I can clearly tell you only play dps
Again, probably doesnt even realise your getting boosted
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I actualy play priest healer.
An about +11 or so Darkheart thicket in Legion demolished a group composed of 3 people of the heroic raid team of our guild and two randoms thanks to the Explosive+ teeming and the roots of the tree boss counting as orb spawning mobs.
The raid encounters are designed properly around certain mechanics. The same cannot be said for every affix combo in M+.
+11 is not demolishing anyone. You might wipe a few times but you just finish it a few minutes later, and still get loot and residuum. I have never heard of anyone wiping for hours in +11 like they can on just a single boss in heroic raid.
You do not need to wipe for hours, if people start quitting cause they wiped a couple of times you are done thanks to that stupid timer
Nobady quits in +11 unless you have entilted boosted noob in your group causing you to wipe. Normal group of players have absolutly no issues finishing+11.
The game is full of them.
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Yes thats why we have rio so they dont get into your group.
I guess my guildmates wanted to believe in the goodness of humanity when they filled the remaining spots with these randoms instead of resorting to the carnival.