Ignore on the forums needs rework

[Sinaaki-chamber-of-aspects]

I can only answer for myself. I have one poster on ignore, and thats cause in the 3 years i’ve been on the forum they have been harping on about the same thing. I know in advance what they are gonna say so i just save myself some scrolling by having their posts hidden. Its not even drama, its just boring i love drama, so drama posters i dont ignore

[Scratchy-neptulon]

yea i mean sure if someone would completly get obcest and not let go from someone i would get it. then we have people simply ignoring people they dont agree with this place is gonna get dead fast for those people

[Cvetelina-dragonmaw (Cvetelina)]

same as i can say with good reason i dont like bots(dk multiboxers in nazjatar battle,herb farmer druids),those who make threats over the smallest error,dps critics
and lastly those who might try to give advice but its actually the opposite
and no it doesnt bother me just confused why they are not banned

[Chunchunmaru-silvermoon (Chunchunmaru)]

I wouldn’t ignore anyone but I noticed one guy that’s actually trolling professionally - making two topics defending and attacking healers from 2 different chars and flaming in both. I wonder if you know who I am talking about. This forum is rather small but the moderation is pitiful. I don’t understand why swapping chars on the fly is a function this forum even needs.

[Hairira-argent-dawn (Hairira)]

@Azanteya-ysera

I’m surely not for notifying someone about getting ignored. However, if you still allow the ignored to reply to the person, who ignores them, they might as well use direct reply option to insult someone without them noticing. And I’m not trusting forum users enough to always flag such insults on behalf of the one not able to see it.

There’s still an easy way for the ignored person to get around this, if they’re adamant about insulting someone, where they reply regularly in a thread and mention the one ignoring them by name. They don’t require direct quoting to keep insulting and getting banned is the only real way of making them stop for a period of time.

@Azanteya-ysera

In ideal, you’d have a moderating system that doesn’t treat ignore and flag seperately. Many people landing on numerous ignore lists also have a lively history of forum bans for expressing themselves inappropriately, insulting others or trolling. A proper forum moderation could easily spot such patterns and turn soft ignore into a solid block if needed. Meaning that you can personally choose between soft ignore and block-flag. If the flag goes through, e.g. for personal harassment, rl threat or discrimination, you would then be allowed to completely block the flagged person.

It may work, provided that the decision of executing it lies with an impartial person, like a moderator (whether it’s fully impartial is of course up for debate). I do question the effectiveness of it though given that being blocked from directly replying can easily be worked around short of forcing everything to work through directly replying to someone in order to post in a thread.

@Azanteya-ysera

Don’t forget that someone’s abilities to reply can get drastically limited if more than one person proceeds with a successful block flag. It might then also make the ignored / blocked one think about their behaviour a bit more.

Consider me a bit of a pessimist but i have my doubts that it’ll make all too many think about their behaviour. If anything it’ll cause a good portion to feel like they’re being victimised and respond based on that feeling.

@Pickpawkit-argent-dawn

Which doesn’t exactly stop the abuser, harasser, but just allows the victim to no longer see it but everyone else still does. Doesn’t action said person, though it is ‘one’ solution.

Stopping them from directly replying won’t solve that either. They’ll go with a standard reply and namedrop the person ignoring them before digging into the point of the post they wanted to reply to.

@Pickpawkit-argent-dawn

Which making posts for the purpose of getting under someones skin or to provoke a negative reaction, should be removed/actioned as they’re against the forum rules yes.

Feeding them that information is still going to make them jump at it like it’s a feast even if the initial post may not have meritted a ban in its contents. It feels more like a system that’s set up to bait people into commiting and getting themselves banned (though a good portion of those doing this would get into that terrority anyhow later on).

@Pickpawkit-argent-dawn

It’s a great thing, so when they circumvent this they know what they’re doing and have no excuse and Blizzard can’t deny what they’re doing either.

Meanwhile it’s going to create more headaches as a moderator since threads of “why are you ignoring me” or variations thereof will pop up. Not all ignores are due to banable offenses either in the first place. Some are simply down to having polar opposite standpoints on a topic and one part not wanting to have theirs argued with neither having said anything worth a flag or forum ban. Restricting the one ignored in this case is far from desirable to me.

[Daestra-turalyon]

@Chunchunmaru-silvermoon

I wonder if you know who I am talking about.

The one who called everyone “narcissists” and used 3 chars in one thread ?

[Chunchunmaru-silvermoon (Chunchunmaru)]

Yeah, I wonder why people like that aren’t known to the forum moderation and removed. They aren’t even presenting their views, just trying to create discord.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Having to post on btag would remove their ability to do that.

[Hairira-argent-dawn (Hairira)]

I can still remember the issues people had with Real ID posting when that was proposed some time back in late WotLK or early Cata when Blizzard moved on to a different forum style the first time.

Btag/bnet locked posting would work a fair bit better though since it isn’t tied to the name on the Real ID and maybe there could be the option to link a specific character to it as the posting avatar.

I just don’t understand why they went fully character specific with this forum. Surely someone must’ve been able to see the potential issues.

[Odrihm-dalaran]

Oh the irony, I can’t read the OP because it’s ignored.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Real ID was totally out of order, people don’t want to use their realm names.

[Hairira-argent-dawn (Hairira)]

Indeed. Not to mention the issues it may have had with stalking.

[Canabal-darkspear (Canabal)]

@Daestra-turalyon

i do not want to see anything they say or to acknowledge they exist at all hence the point of ignore .

I think that if you put someone on ignore, not only should you not be able to see what they post but they shouldn’t be able to see any of your posts as well.

I think forums should have a friends list and only people on it can see your threads/posts.

@Daestra-turalyon

Today i have had to add a person 9th alt

Relevance, be it to others, never them to you.

I never felt the need to report or having to put someone on ignore, ever.

[Landrien-turalyon]

I only wish the ignore function actually ignore the poster and don’t keep showing their threads, their name and highly visible lines pretty much saying to you:

“Hey, you know that poster you hate and don’t want to see? He posted something, right here, wanna check it? Are you sure you want to ignore it? Sure? Sure? Right here! READ IT!”

[Sinaaki-chamber-of-aspects]

And even if u dont press the view one hidden post, u still see it cause someone quotes it

[Azanteya-ysera]

@Hairira-argent-dawn

They don’t require direct quoting to keep insulting and getting banned is the only real way of making them stop for a period of time.

That might be true, which is why I would tie ignore / block to flag in the first place. A flag tells mods to keep an eye on the situation, no matter if it goes through or not. And since you mostly have your “usual suspects” when it comes to flags anyways, it shouldn’t be that hard to spot someone going on a bullying spree about people, who ignore them.

I say - shouldn’t - because as we already agreed, the moderation itself could need some improvement, too. Others mentioned correctly that some flagged posts fly around for days, weeks even without being moderated. And the situation doesn’t get better with some posters using multiple chars to post. Forum administration really would make life easier for us as well as themselves if they limited forum participation to one char only or used forum user-tags.

@Hairira-argent-dawn

I do question the effectiveness of it though given that being blocked from directly replying can easily be worked around short of forcing everything to work through directly replying to someone in order to post in a thread.

@Hairira-argent-dawn

Consider me a bit of a pessimist but i have my doubts that it’ll make all too many think about their behaviour. If anything it’ll cause a good portion to feel like they’re being victimised and respond based on that feeling.

Have some faith!

@Canabal-darkspear

I think that if you put someone on ignore, not only should you not be able to see what they post but they shouldn’t be able to see any of your posts as well.

Valid point. Stopping ignored people from stalking your forum activity and use it as a spotlight for their commentary isn’t the worst idea. Actually would solve the reply dilemma for ignore mode real quick.

[Landrien-turalyon]

And there’s that too, the ignore function is a complete joke

I don’t even bother using it. Tickles your curiosity, which is worse than not having the person on ignore.

[Shumensko-azjolnerub (Shumensko)]

Yes, ignore should propagate to every reply.

[Hairira-argent-dawn (Hairira)]

@Azanteya-ysera

I say - shouldn’t - because as we already agreed, the moderation itself could need some improvement, too. Others mentioned correctly that some flagged posts fly around for days, weeks even without being moderated. And the situation doesn’t get better with some posters using multiple chars to post. Forum administration really would make life easier for us as well as themselves if they limited forum participation to one char only or used forum user-tags.

I still don’t get why they changed this in the first place. The previous forum had ignore work account-wide, even when someone changed posting char. Only issue was maybe how easy it was to still be able to read posts from whomever you ignored and how what they said still was visible when being quoted.
I’ve always had an issue with moderation here to some degree and how things don’t seem to be dealt with in a consistent manner but designing the forum in this way certainly didn’t make it easier for them.

@Azanteya-ysera

Have some faith!

I’m running a bit dry in that department. Most who get banned and return seem to get right back into posting in the way that got them banned or chalk it up to a “must be them” mentality. I applaud those who do see why they got banned and decide to change something about it though.

@Sinaaki-chamber-of-aspects

And even if u dont press the view one hidden post, u still see it cause someone quotes it

Usually it’s “ignored content” that shows up for me (was one poster whose attitude i got tired of seeing and they posted fairly often) and i don’t know how exactly they’ll deal with this in a way that makes sense for the person ignoring.

@Canabal-darkspear

I never felt the need to report or having to put someone on ignore, ever.

Never saw the point either. Sometimes it’s just fuel for whoever getting ignored or flagged and creates a negative environment in general since it definitely gets personal at that point.

[Twiluna-argent-dawn]

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