I'm confused why I'm getting declined from keys when i've timed 18s

Name Pink, no Purple/Red, so no good.

You need to understand nobody is checking your logs when they have to choose a DPS from a list of 20 people. They hover your name and use the available information. And if it says your highest clear on that dungeon is a +3 when you queue fore a +14 then that’s a red flag.

Just try to get into the highest you can for that dungeon (probably a 3 to 4 increase) and then do the same with your revised score until you reach the level you want.

they won’t let u in if u can’t boost them that’s kinda the rule . not always and not with every lead but usually that’s the thing. you need to have either way more gear or rating .

You’re pretty opinionated for someone that doesn’t do m+. Is it possible you’re talking :poop: ?

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you’re pretty opinionated for someone who don’t know what i’m doing ? i do play m+. i don’t do higher keys (maybe this season) but that doesn’t change the fact that i do it lol. maybee you’re just mad because i don’t agree with your entitled opinion. don’t bother replying btw you’re already on ignore i just checked who was it , have fun & gl with your toxicity

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How is my opinion entitled?

And I don’t agree with you because you’re generally clueless about what you’re talking about. Do you think extrapolating what happens in your +3’s is a good indication of what happens at the levels you’ve never experienced? Thats the part I have a problem with.

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I don’t agree with Breath’s attitude, but there’s something in what he said, at any level I’ve played at. There are always a small but noticeable minority of players who form their own groups to get a carry, they can’t get into other people’s groups at the level which they wish to do, so this is what they resort to. Which means if you don’t match up to their overinflated sense of what is needed then you get a decline. Quite why anyone would let it bother them though is anybody’s guess, unless they’re a masochist. In a way this is exactly what some of these posts are telling the OP to do too. The more sensible approach would be to build up to it over time, with gear and rating, but nobody seems to have the patience.

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sorry i’m just done with some people here. don’t want to sound mean.

exactly what i mean. i get invites to higher keys when the lead is lower than me on ilvl or rating . i’ve only done like 10 keys so far this season and probably only one or two of them was occasions where i was the bottom dps and not because of how i play. i don’t say i boost people or i play good bad etc. i’m just saying the mentality is about inviting better looking players than yourself. for most people at least.

It happens to us all. Especially if you are not meta it’s even worse.
But, keep in mind that at least for dps you get dozens of players applying rather quickly. There are just more players than spots. So, key holders will grab the highest rating, highest ilvl meta class and increase their theoretical success chances.

I’ve been pugging on my resto shaman and it’s been less than ideal. Even as healer it’s tough to get in.

there is already a solution for that:
start your own key. No johnny declines you…

auto match making you will complain why you got matched with someone 300rio lower than you or why you got matched with 3 boomkins

And i believe you however, people in the LFG tool cannot see that all they can see are the numbers that show your IO and Ilvl.
They make a decision based on the available information as they have nothing else to base it on.

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The problem with that in the case of the OP is that he does not get the right dungeons on the keystones.
So he is stuck between the RNG of the keystone swap and the willingness of other group leaders to go beyond the easy ilvl and score appraisal.

Personally I would look for a more closed community that does keys in order to have less competition from people who just have inflated ilvl.

Confidence is important but how exactly do you know that you’re indeed capable of doing, for example, EB at that level if you’ve never done it on any difficulty at all?

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I’m gonna have to put this here, because I’ve played retri this season:

I ran a sim on your character, you’re not geared well enough to be able to pull over 150k dps ST. The sims are saying less than 80k dps ST. Yes, sims can be somewhat wrong but they’re not wrong by a margin of almost 100%.

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How do you funnel players into MDI?!

Players are going to be toxic, that’s a given, but you need a system for Mythic+ dungeons that compliments that toxicity.

Why?!

It forces you to do Mythic+ with friends.

Why?!

After doing the same dungeons over a period of time, one of you will have the bright idea for the group to try out for MDI because that person feels like the group has become pretty good at Mythic+.

PUGs don’t try out for MDI.

Wanting to have the highest ilvl/rating/class on the current Tierlist is not elitism, they just want to clear their keys.

And you’d probably do the same in their place, as it is the thing that makes the most sense.

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that’s literally the definition of a elitist player, also no I wouldn’t, I’d be more than happy to help someone if asked.

You would take a 450 ilvl Shadow Priest with 1500 rating over a 470 ilvl Hunter with 2500 rating? Somehow I doubt that.

And even if you do, which I doubt, you’re making a disservice to the rest of the party, who just want to succeed.

And you’re calling “Wanting to succeed the key” Elitist. That’s literally the way the game is designed. I am playing the game. And so is everyone else.

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I’m just referring to the fact of what you said is the definition of a elitist player which you honestly can’t really argue, Dont shoot the messenger.

I’m not really here for debate I said my part and I’m finished with this sub.

Yes, you said that, I answered to it, and you are now dodging the answer.

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