Will we be able to server change with our mains or?
Fresh Classic TBC will not happen for a very long time, if at all. We don’t even have fresh Classic-Era.
You don’t seem to understand economics. And editing someone elses post to look like they made it is a cheap shot.
Does your memory have holes in it? I remember after 4-5 weeks, maybe even less, the boosting spam starting, first with MC then moving on from there.
get your head out of the clouds and into reality.
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I’d reroll in a second if fresh tbc servers were released
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I think I’ll just take my chances and wait for a fresh server, even if it takes a couple months or more: it’s not like I can’t play other games in the meantime. The state of the game is just something I don’t want to deal with, I don’t like it, I probably wouldn’t have fun playing such a corrupted version of what the game is supposed to be like…thanks for the answers guys, I’ll pass. If there’s no fresh well, too bad for me I guess.
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Yea same here i wana play with people there actually wana play the game and not just rush to the end game. You know taking your sweet time to read every single quest that there’s exiting like the plaguelands ones.
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Much more, probably years, if at all.
You realise fresh would be exactly the same version we have now?
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Not gonna play unless there’s a fresh tbc server personally, so…
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I’m also hesitating right now. On one hand I also want to play, on the other all the microtransactions make me completely unexcited for the long term.
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It is a tricky situation for sure. Tons of people (don’t tell me I’m wrong) were really put off by all these new paying features that no one ever asked for…it’s understandable that many players wouldn’t want to play right now BUT like @Dottie said, it is very risky.
I do have the feeling that a non negligible part of the community is not gonna stay long at this rate, and another small part is not playing, hoping for a couple brand new servers.
I agree when you say that it could take more than that (and in that case, again, well that’s too bad for me), but I strongly disagree when you say it will be the same as the current servers. Anyways, I think I’ll just pass honestly.
Oh truuue. They should make fresh classic servers too. Considering the traction these servers have been getting lately if the trend snowballs enough we might have these server up by the end of the year already
Right, I just have a bachelor’s degree in it, not that it’s relevant. No personal stuff is relevant here hence why this entire part of the reply is irrelevant
Whether boosting exists or not is completely irrelevant to the state of the server economies. It’s like saying that black lotus farming and respawn approximations or AoE farming or running around in DME or doing DME jump runs or basically any method of gold farming means that the server economy is X or Y or anything. Just completely irrelevant
My head is as deep in the rabbit hole of server economics as it can be. My man I witnessed players do servers transfers to make insane amounts of bank live. Some guild(s) holding a mafia over devilsaurs and P1 prebis materials for the best classes to make measly tens of thousands of gold is nothing compared to the server wide damage that has occurred during the course of entire 2 years of gold juicers and bot farmers juicing the entire scheme
This is my last reply towards this btw because it’s completely irrelevant to the topic itself and is just purely derailing it.
Or in short… ahem…
IF YOU DON’T HAVE CHARACTERS YOU FEEL LIKE STAYING ON AND PROGRESSING WITH OR FEEL REALLY ATTACHED TO AND YOU DON’T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO PLAY RIGHT NOW - YES, WAIT FOR THE FRESH TBC SERVERS
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Depends on how much you play.
There is a sweet spot of being fresh max about a month after the launch: the market is getting established, tryhards are cooling down, joining a dungeon group usually involves some well geared people. But neither of these gone too far yet.
I’d level from scratch, if you are interested. Don’t expect a fresh realm (albeit feedback would be nice to help those asking about it), if you feel like you can make it, just experience the world. BC tuning is a wee bit easier compared to Classic, and most elite quests / zones are normal, thus playable. Can skip dungeons altogether.
I don’t think anyone would spit on non-boost in either of the two meanings.
Considering guild chat, opinions range from 1% extreme to the majority simply considering efficiency and fun. As for gold, I took skinning (only) and my reserves are growing nicely on that fresh character. Won’t buy a full purple BoE upon 70 but isn’t it all about the joys of progression? 
Even the current Classic-era realms have little traction, have you ever done a population census during busy times on realms that were full? I have and it wasn’t good.
I don’t believe you.
Not true, they cost gold which the boosting players will horde and possibly drive up AH prices.
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Yeah but that’s the conendrum really: I don’t like boosts, but it almost feels like we’re forced too (although we’re not literally forced to). Blizzard really knows how to frustrate their playerbase.
I know A LOT of returning players who would, by far, prefer fresh tbc servers to boosts, but alas, it’s not nearly as profitable for the current company, made of people who don’t care about the game at all, just about their shareholders.
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I experience the opposite. Tolerated, because having a life or other games is not a sin anymore, but not respected. You must have missed the whole array of pay to win threads over the last few days.
I don’t know whether you want to be convinced either way and really just looking for that kind of an argument.
The only one that aggregates a lot of threads in my head is the prepatch was too short. But leveling now is prototypical, you can have cash, you can very well catch up, or heck, you can bypass it. I genuinely don’t see a problem, but I’m me, wearing my shoes.
There is a simple test. Roll a character, play it for a few hours, and see whether you stick. You can post, so you have access.
Fair enough, I’ll think about it. Thank you.
IF I end up rolling on a server and buying a boost, would you be kind enough to recommend me the ideal server for someone who wants to pve as a horde or alliance player, as well as the ideal server for someone who wants to pvp as a horde or alliance player too? Ty.
I’m not in a good position to give hard advice.
I rolled on Mirage Raceway and stuck to it - seems perfectly fine realm to me.
Some people love busy realms, others don’t. I only PvE.
Check this out for population expectations:
https://ironforge.pro/servers/?locale=EU
This is a hint about oversized / weak realms, too.
I did Google it, found a thread and literally every post was vouching for a different server. Maybe pick one, then search here for posts about it.
I guess you’re aware of what population usually means in terms of PvP, namely the underdog has instant battlegrounds but trouble questing.
Also apparently the biggest PvP realms are balanced, while PvE realms are quite skewed. I played on such a server as horde in 2009-2010, it was still viable with several serious raiding guilds, nearly instant BG queues. Wasn’t dungeoneering too much. I faintly recall Wintergrasp and Tol Barad being mostly alliance territory, though.
Two problems - 1) it says active raiders and 2) it’s about a month old.
Might be worth opening a similar thread.
Are you playing as alliance on mirage raceway btw? Or horde? If horde, how alive is the pve scene?
And thank you for the previous, thorough answer of course.
There is going to be a very long time before Blizzard add fresh TBC servers. Potentially years seeing as we don’t have fresh vanilla servers yet. And those are obviously going to come first.
And secondly, the experience will be marred by boosts and paid mounts anyways. Botters and gold farmers are going to by these boosts in droves and ruin the economy way faster than it happend in Classic. Which arguably happend in just a few months.
And before you claim that these servers won’t have any paid services. Just think about it for a minute. Do you really think Blizzard want to miss out on the ability to sell boosts during an effective relauch of TBC? When people are scrambling to get an edge. Perhaps they will. But i wouldn’t count on it.