Influx of bots on Spineshatter EU

They already swarmed the shimmering flats right now. Are we really gonna go through this again, Blizzard?

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As long as people will buy gold, there will be bots sadly enough.

They’re generally well aware where they are and will banwave them. If you want, you can also report them or submit a short clip/zone description to Hacks@blizzard.com

For example in another F2P game Valorant & League this is explained in more detail why it is so difficult:

The botting problem is prevalant in all games/MMO’s, not just WoW. If there was a solution there would be one by now.

An ex-dev that worked at Blizz:

You may suggest any methods you may think of through the ingame feedback box but it is not likely that it will be groundbreaking new suggestion.

Source.

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oh my :joy: :joy: :joy:

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stop spamming your cringe propaganda, nobody falls for it.

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Spamming? I’ve not posted for months lmao

What do you mean by “propoganda”? I saw bots yesterday in the shimmering flats as well as today.

In the past, great companies were about innovation and disruption.

Today they are like - We can’t do anything about it, but here is a service you can buy… :joy:

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Bad actor, a shill and useless.

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Crazy how Saneko ain’t wrong, things ain’t as simple as the community imagines, but you still get crapped on by those who are unwilling to think about it for more than 10 seconds lmao

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Agreed, it would be grand if most of these players who stick the blame on the “big bad corporation” understood the simple concept of reverse engineering.

That’s where the battle has been lost since day one. Every company, every system, every game. It doesn’t matter what they come up with, at 10% of the time and 1% of the cost it will be reverse engineered.

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Theres no reverse engineering. You hire gms and bits would never be able to leave the starting area you dope. Theres no reason a bot should be able to get to level 60 after grinding mobs for 2 months and accumulating reports from hundreds of different players :slight_smile: :melting_face:

The bootlickers are coming out in full force.

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They should’ve banned GDKP’s on anniversary realms so we wouldn’t be having this bot problem. I really don’t understand why they didn’t because besides GDKP there is literally no other reason people would buy gold.

Wait, you think there’s “no reverse engineering”? That’s not even possible, think about what you are saying for a second. A person or group has designed a program that exposes another programs source code…without having said programs source code? really? How did they know what axis to put the flyhack’s on relative to X being the ground? A guess?

The absolute kicker here is that you are playing vanilla content that is running on the legion engine. An old backup of 1.12 was found and guess what? yea…they were able to reverse engineer it and have it run on the legion client, thus, allowing us to have classic.

I know many people think GM’s are the answer but that comes with it’s own problems.
Let’s say you want them to ban the bots manually clicking buttons right? that task is:
A. Very Menial
B. Extremely repetitive

That’s part of the reason most of it has become automated. The other part of it being that because of the issues above most of these jobs are outsourced to agencies in countries that are:
A. Impoverished
B. Have little to no concern of Copyright laws

Basically, many (and I mean many) of the botting programs come from leaked source code. Guess who’s leaking it?

Also, the reason bots are able to steamroll to 60 is because they use ban waves. Of course someone such as yourselves probably think the waves are because of laziness. The ban waves are another form of defence on Blizzards part (because Blizzard too know its almost futile to combat). The waves are an attempt to throw off the botting program creators as to why the were caught.

There’s no bootlickers here so your insults are futile. I too agree (and wish) it were as simple as many others think. Botting has only got easier especially with such small clients as WoW classic running 30-50 VM’s on one stack. One thing though, I do think the answer is just around the corner concerning botting and server injected hacks…the answer is AI and at that point it becomes a battle of money for development.

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There actually is, but you’re not willing to have that conversation
And it doesn’t really matter in the end, even if you have a full GM force to headhunt bots, and you do a good job at it, if there’s demand for the ingame currency they’ll just resort to their fallback plan, which is paying peanuts to gold farming groups residing in third world countries, and those people are playing the game fair and square, the only moment they cross the line is when they sell the gold, and now you’re going to argue that we need a full GM team paying close attention to gold transactions, which you can also do but there’s actually hundreds of ways to slowly feed money into someone without it seeming like a direct RMT act
But you prefer to call those who see things differently “bootlickers” because it’s more covenient
Long story short, you can gimp the bot farms, but those companies will just adapt and even if you don’t see any bots, there’ll be an influx of “players” that their only job is to RMT the gold, this cycle is unavoidable, blame it on WoW’s success

source: I’m an ex-GM of another MMORPG, part of the group that was responsible for bot/RMT hunting

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What you two have just done is called forum sliding and is a well known tactic to silence opposition. How much are you useful idiots being paid?

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Haha, I wish I was paid to share my insight about these kinds of matters, but alas I do it for free, in hopes of having a decent conversation while also letting other people know about a side that they might not be aware of
But I’d say that most people have the same reaction as you, which is name-calling, non-argument responses, which is to be expected, unfortunately

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“my arguments/opinions > your arguments/opinions, thereby you’re a clown”
like I said at the start of my first reply to you, “you’re not willing to have that conversation”
carry on tho, got to occupy myself somehow during my lunchbreak lmao

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And for the record, yes, I want to watch all these bots getting banned, and yes, it’s not hard to do, like you said, just hire a generous amount of GM’s specifically tasked to ban them, and even tho that’s a small investment (which I’m not sure if Blizzard is willing to do, lmao), it will ultimately lead to somewhat the same outcome, but the gold distribution will be done differently
that might be an improvement in the public opinion, but that’s unfortunately up to Blizz to decide if it leads to more $$$ on their side, which you probably know the answer to that question

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I wouldn’t worry too much about it, they aren’t willing to discuss in any kind of meaningful way. Your likely trying to have a conversation with someone accustomed to shouting people down on the likes of twitter or reddit.

“when the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser”.

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Just scroll past any post in green letters, it’ll be good for your blppd pressure …

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Source: trust me bro

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