haha, true, true
Throwing out 9 paragraphs and expecting any meaningful response to that bollocks is hilarious. Thats the point of your forum sliding tactics, cockroach.
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Hilarious, as your contribution to the topic, claiming that someone elseâs argument is âbollocksâ without providing any counter point, plus adding the unwarranted name-calling does not help your cause, if anything it just paints those who push for bot-hunting as blizzâs nr1 priority as immature and insuferable to interact with, and a lot of those people donât deserve that label, unlike you
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Lol idgaf what you think about me, i like how you thought that would even be a relevant thing to bring up. Your subversion tactics are piling up. Keep trying to bait⌠unsuccessfully. 
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âbaiting a conversation about a topicâ, said as if this was a game of cats and mice, as if discussing this topic would lead to you losing steam on the point youâre trying to convey
I donât know, I just find it really entertaining, feeding trolls and watching them squeezing themselves to avoid getting âcaughtâ/âcorneredâ
you might have something valid to say about the topic, eventually, Iâm looking forward to it
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Im truly living rent free.
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Or you have an ulterior motive? 
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There we go, thank you for finally outting yourself lmao
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You can go play with yourself now, or whatever you usually do when you arent giving out free rent to random people on the internet.
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Egregor is right tho.
Just put a couple GMs in starting zones and bots would never go past that.
I mean itâs that simple.
And wth, is it so hard to detect automated programs?? In Sod bots were flying for months lmao.
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Everyone wishes it was that straight forward, it just isnât Iâm afraid.
Everything that you âthinkâ you can come up with has a solution, that solution is usually much faster and much cheaper to come up with than the one put in place too. Thatâs all that Gothic and myself were trying to explain above.
You could easily do some research on any of this, egregor too. Then you might understand that maybe. just maybe the issue plagues (and has plagued) every game, every system, every client since the 90âs. It truly is a losing battle because botting, hacking, exploiting etc programs are much easier and faster to develop than guardian solutions. In WoW classics case its a perfect storm because the client is so thin, very very old and of course popular, throw that in with modern âhardcoreâ gaming and a min/max culture fully embracing RMTâŚyeaâŚ
If a few GMâs in the starter zones were the answer do you not think Blizzard would have done that, they could have kept GDKP and let all those players accustomed to RMT just buy âtheirâ gold aka token. That would be huge profits, ifâŚthe solution were as easy as you believe.
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Egregor is right about the method to get rid of the bots
The company I worked for firstly started by having GMâs on bot duty, which worked but required at least 20 people semi-permanetly monitoring multiple servers, mostly camped at the starter zone, and I still remember how the bot farms adapted
they hired smaller farming groups from third world countries (at least from the IPâs we banned) to level in mass multiple accounts by hand to mid-level, and then they would start the botting procedure, in an attempt to slow us down
They would end up getting banned anyway, since we got flooded with bot reports every day, but they kept at it so I guess that even with all the currency we deleted, all the accounts we banned, they still made money out of it
later on the devs tried to use AI to ban bots, which led to banwaves of like 95% bots 5% real players, the backlash was worth it since we could quickly revert the bans after investigating the accounts of the real players, which lead to a big part of the GMâs monitoring RMT/bots getting dismissed (I was part of it, unfortunately)
And now it seems that they dropped botting entirely and they fully invested into full time currency farming, while paying the farmers more than they would get with a job where they live
All of this just to say that Blizz can get rid of the bots, yeah, and they should, since itâs actually easy, but the outcome will be somewhat the same, RMT will happen, gold will be farmed and sold with real cash
But Iâm all in for Blizz contracting a bigger GM team to monitor the bots, at least it would buy some time for the economy to stabilize before it starts inflating again
I have added a bot Iâve encountered 3 days ago in shimmering flats and now heâs lvl 42 still existing like everything is alright 
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Dont expect anything to change. Ive observed the phenomenon on multiple occassions and had the same result. The same bots farming the same zone, same gathering nodes for MONTHS straight. Reverse engineering my a$$
The most absurd thing about it is that they know blizzards security measures, in their noble grace and philantrophic desire to choose their faithful customers over the game destroying bots (/s), is a complete joke, and they have started creating their bots with patronizing and bad faith names which immediately expose themselves, such as âfarmerzzâ, âherbgodxxâ. I wish i could say i wad joking.
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Yeah I even emailed the report but I feel like it wonât do anything
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Can you explain how Turle Wow manages it then, and how, if Blizzard adopted their system, it would fail?
Blizzard have the financial resources to easily adopt Twowâs systems but they choose not to.
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To answer your question (while being afraid that we might get sanctioned by discussing pservers), TWowâs team invested into a GM team to ban bots on sight, and after a period of time not netting any good amount of gold, the bot farms are slowly diverting their attention elsewhere, since their other fallback plans, like contracting gold farmers is not a good investment for a 10k population server, they wonât make bank out of investing more into selling that gold
long story short, the scope of WoW and pservers is really different pop-wise, so they allocate most of their resources to gold making into official servers, where you can find a bigger amount of buyers, and on pservers they simply deploy bots, since those cost way way less than a personal gold farm group
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Actually a guy in my wrath guild bought gold to cover consumes⌠Some people are way to lazy to even play this game, he got banned though for gold buying was a short ban and all his gold he had bought was deleted
So they could clean up Era if we are talking about population as a deciding factor, yet they still havenât. In that, by your reasoning (which I agree with) they could sort the Era servers with GMâs, but they choose not to.
edit: I know this post is about Spineshatter, but using Era as a possible starting place to clean up, as the population is low now.
edit2: and if the problem is as you suggest one of scaling, then a multimillion dollar business like Blizzard (and the potential infinite funds from its now parent company) should be able to up-scale the systems that Twow puts into place in accordance with a larger population, and hence could even create the gold standard of anti-bot and anti-rmt systems. Its not that they canât do this, the evidence of such systems success is evident from that pserver, its that they wont do it, and thatâs what is leading to many players frustration.
correct, thatâs the bottomline, and thereâs obviously a few reasons why, but those reasons might not be as important to the playerbase
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UPDATE (06.12): this bot is still happily leveling and farming
I moved to Desolace today and the first thing Iâve met at Thunder Axe Fortress is another hunter bot with a bear pet named bear. Asked ppl around to report him. In short he acted completely the same as previous bot hunters Iâve met.
Made sure heâs a bot: weird pathing, he also immediately accepted invite and was ok with master loot lol/no responses.
Feels pointless but I do my part (I guess?..)
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