People like you who grew up on smartphones and instant gratification will never understand it and because you dont understand it you think everryone is toxic if things dont go your way imeadiatly.
You use the fact that youâve played vanilla wrath in like every thread. You know what? You are not the only one! Iâve played it since launch too and somehow do not remember that everything collapsed overnight.
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Prob because âeverythingâ did not collapse over night? Learn to read you cretin.
Sure grandpa, now letâs get you to bed.
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And according to Nikkyblond the community on Firemaw right now is healthy and overly social. But once a RDF would be available, even if it was at the end of wotlk and realm intern only, the great society would immediately collapse and only a world of destruction and hate would remain.
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What do we have here? Social toxicity? I though only RDF introduced toxicity! 
Btw this is your word youâve written on May 31st:
I did play Wrath vanilla. LFD destroyed the community over night.
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That guy is just a toxic individual. Firemaw community is at worst since launch. He played vanilla since launch and he was adult, that makes him grumpy grandpa now. Someone should definitely go outside once in a while.
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I think the board mods should give you a time out already. All you do is insult people, just because they point out the discrepancies in your posts.
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Iâm afraid they ainât backing down on their position to delete RFD.
No they dont. They spew out garbage and attack me as a person. Not a single one have came out with any counter arguments that can not be shattered by looking at what happened in the past or just looking at patches.
And if they gona claim i said something they should use the correct thing i said. Not make stuff up to fit their agenda.
Ill just put it this way would you rather Retail wow where you constantly get declined from M+ or just enjoy the game where you were put in a group and just did the dungeon and if people left you could instantly find another. People are completly forgetting that gearscore came into the game at this time and would make people not invite you. adding this NEW LFD TOOL Is basically saying HELLO Boosters
Reserving Items
and people selling there services
and will lead to more tickets in the long run.
They dont see the Impact of it and will not listen to any post about it and by then the damage is done.
Look Why not have the best of both world have the Finder and LFD tool for people who want it. and see how many choose LFD TOOL XD
You dont shatter anything, you close your eyes and remember that the game changed 12-14 years ago and you project it all these changes on one of many features. Would wotlk be same as vanilla community wise, if RDF would not have been introduced? Do you think cataclysm would have a community like vanilla if there was no RDF or LFR?
Even if it was not your memory and all you think was right, the only fact others can argue about is that you, in your memory, are convinced the community changed for the worse in the same time RDF was introduced. If no objective facts are involved, people have trouble trying to argue with anybody. its same with you, because your main argument isnt an objective one.
Let me give you an example:
An objective argument would be that crossrealm causes problems in terms of liability and the inability to keep playing with crossrealm players or to add them as friends. This argument is objective.
If you claim the community was destroyed in a time frame when a feature was introduced, it is not objective. Neither is destruction something that is measurable, since its subjective, nor can anyone be sure that with all these changes that happened in patch 3.3.0, it was only the RDF that caused the issue.
Some say the change in the community started with tbc, others say it was with early wotlk, some say it was patch 3.3.0 and others say it was cataclysm. You see, its not really objective to say it was at one specific point, because the community changed all the time. Some noticed earlier, some noticed later. Some never noticed, because they changed with the community.
TLDR: Your main argument cant be argued with, because its not objective. Since they cannot argue and you dont seem to understand the problem, some start to insult you, because they dont see how to interact with you otherwise.
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Itâs not really any point trying to answer him. Many of us have, with good arguments, but he just keeps coming back with his poor non-constructive arguments. On top of that saying completely contradicting things like:
Iâm convinced, at this point, that heâs only here to troll us.
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I dont think you know the difference of âcommunityâ and âeverythingâ. But thats just me.
The ppl that played back then that was social and on larger servers know what happened.
You did not play back then so you dont know. And your screaming about wanting to play âas it wasâ with RDF from the get go tells me you have no idea what you are talking about and you dont know what made Wrath great and why it has the reputation it did.
Wrath had a content drought in the end as they introduced RDF. Same with Cataclysm when they introduced LFR. None of the functions created healthy games. And RDF made it so cata dungeons had to be nerfed because ppl where to bad and did not communicate anymore because of the RDF habit.
I say the changes to the worse started with TBC as that is when the catchup gear started to become real.
I also played the original wrath.
What caused the game to die was not RDF lol.
No it didnât lol.
RDF doesnât cause âplayers to be badâ
WOTLK dungeons were just piss easyâŚ
I still find your logic in that the RDF will destroy communities hilarious though.
Especially since youâre on firemaw
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This is why people dont take you seriously. You assume things and take them as facts. For example that I wasnt playing wotlk, but you are wrong. I, and many others, are also not âscreamingâ. That is only your own interpretation and in my case wrong. For your information I started playing mid tbc, and played the full duration of wrath and later for many years on private servers primarily wotlk.
I dont get what you try to aim at with the content drought btw. I dont see a necessary connection with RDF or LFR. Some cataclysm dungeons at release were really hard compared to the wotlk ones at any time, so many groups, premade ones too, had problems with the content and asked for nerfs. There is no doubt the overall difficulty went way up and players had problems with the content they used to clear. Its not necessarily related to the RDF and its highly possible that without RDF introduction the players would have asked for cata dungeon nerfs the same was as it was with RDF.
This is the quality of your arguments. You assume wrong things and take them as facts, at least in this case. You bring up unrelated issues like content drought and try to connect it with RDF, which is unreasonable.
LFD came out with ICC so hardly credible.
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Itâs exactly the other way around. XD
But Iâve heard a good quote once, that always comes to my mind, when I read your posts.
âArguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird will just take a dump on the board and strut around like it won anyway.â
No matter how often people refute you, you will just make up completely new nonsense, that even contradicts with the stuff you said before and pretend you won.
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Donât bother with that troll.
I mean itâs not like they suddenly realized we, the players, had nothing to do and on a whim invented RDF (or LFR for that matter). Those were planned and built on long before they were implemented.
Had there been a contentdraught they would have come up with other things. Things easier to just âmake up on a whimâ, like more dailies, new questhubs, challenges, you name it.
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