Can we all just go back to MoP where guilds met in Barrens/Tol Barad to arrange wpvp guild wars or gank fested opposite factions pvp vendors till VM or Shade or Dominion showed up and it started a whole war up and down the great wall? So many drama. much wow. Bring this back in classic and stop hating on forums you twerps. ![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Also please make more horde raids to alliance cities. Invading Zuldazar is getting boring.
You forgot Fallen Vanguard
Who? You mean Shrike?
Was you even in either guilds, “arranged” Omegalul what a joke, doesn’t matter what anyone says anyway no person is going to make a horde wpvp guild because they cba recruiting I assume and getting fights in this sh!tfest of an expansion
Classic will last for about 2-3 months till everyone quits or at least the majority of the players which leaves the hard core vanilla lovers. So I guess I will see you when you’re completely bored with classic.
You are right, nobody playing Horde will make a wpvp guild to fight you guys. There is a general lack of interest in pvp for the last two expansions on this realm, if you follow the recruitment post here. Hardly any wpvp guild survived longer than 2 months, because there was nothing to fight and/or affected members with the-grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side syndrome.
I think Classic will be a better environment for wpvp because:
- A fresh start with a healthy population on pvp servers(I hope)
- No sharding, which means no LFG and no 40 man raids popping out of nowhere.
- No flying mounts
- No warmode
I am sure that people will play classic longer than 2 months and if they are bored they will not return to BFA, but quit wow for good.
So i am convinced that wpvp is dead on retail for good until Blizzard decides to merge realms again and implement layering instead of sharding.
TL/DR: wpvp on db ded, classic ftw.
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Sorry for butting in, I’m not on Defias, but… I’ve had a thought…
WPvP guilds are in short supply. There are plenty of non WPvP guilds. How about a campaign by the existing WPvP guild(s) of activity conversion on non WPvP guilds. It could work, if not, could be fun anyway.
Here’s my suggestion for increasing WPvP guilds + finding them in WM shards:
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I wish you the best of luck on Classic but personally that’s something that I’m not interested in playing at all, maybe there will be alot more things to do in classic within the first month max but I also feel like it will die out after 3-5 months.
I did infact participate in few wpvp guilds in MoP for a while, including those big battles and when Horde decided to steal the alliance PvP vendor by mindcontrolling and pulling him into an underwater cave in the start of a new season. Or when Honor Capped came to crash our server with a full raid of russians 
Unfortunately lot of todays trolls don’t remember these times, but they were actually pretty entertaining.
In fact the video from VM fighting with other wpvp guilds is still up on reddit!
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Wow, thank you for that history tour! Looks like very glorious times!
I missed those expansions completely, internet spaceships were way too serious business for me at that time, but I would love to watch more of Defias history - Vengeful PvP youtube channel has more videos, but is there other guilds/pov? google-fu showed nothing…
Btw, are any of the players in the video still playing? I looked at names in raid frames and I don’t think I saw any in current game.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/Xav4lis
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShadePvP
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaoo4AK5CStlYF1akyajt3Q
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aboc+defias
You’ll have to do some digging through for smaller fights but if you’re looking for some more footage here’s a variety of views. Xavalis (Solo shaman vids + WPvP archive from guild Dominion) and Doomsday (small 5man groups mostly) will have more footage of smaller groups.
There’s lots more under individual users’ profiles. Lots of opinions will fly around about the state of the server and community during MoP & WoD but it’s safe to say the server was a lot more active for world PvP back then regardless.
As far as players still in the game… The core of VM have moved on, players from each guild can be found dotted around still continuing with WPvP or otherwise just getting what they can out of the game.
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This is very cool! Thank you!
That’s quite a lot to watch, haha, nice!
Do any plan to come back for Classic? to recreate for nostalgia or stay full time for as long as it goes?
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I’m unsure, I see a bunch of people have expressed interest and hope it’ll be better than live servers, but there’s not much in the way of organisation yet. I may have missed it though as classic doesn’t really take my interest.
Hope you get some kicks from the videos though!
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Well, maybe something more visible will happen when Blizzard announced realm names and types. Will see I guess.
Already do! Old school WPvP videos are my favorite kind, haha
At this point, with all the changes to current game, I think MoP can be considered Old School, at least it sure looks like it.
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preach,
that’s me.
Unless the next expansion changes to be more like classic/tbc due to the popularity of vanilla I won’t be coming back.
In the end it’s a waste of cash and i can spend it on other things.
Thanks for those links. Do you know any other YT channels like Xavalis with new WPvP vids being added? I could search, but random stuff will come up, would be good to know the famous channels.
Tfw most of the VM videos was by Velacor FeelsWeirdMan
No I mean Fallen Vanguard
My cringe terribad PC and combat text D:
I’m not really out and about much so I don’t know if there’s a heart of the community in terms of video content, but here’s a good search string you can sift through and see if anybody is making regular content:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=world+of+warcraft+"wpvp"&sp=CAI%3D
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Thanks! Will check it out.