Blizzard also said they won’t do another faction conflict. A faction leader going rogue would pretty much lead to one and if not, I would smell a bad writing.
I would say a lifetime soldier being somewhat crueler than average bureocrat is nothing mind blowing.
I still think if there will be anything antagonistic with some Light users beyond Scarlets, Lohtraxxion will be behind it. I am already playing with the idea of him being behind current Scarlet Crusade resurgence anyway. They became crazy after another dreadlord messed with them afterall.
People don’t just stop hating the opposing side after a grudge has been settled or a wrong righted. In fact it’s the opposite.
Just look at the middle east conflict, all the way from pre roman period to this date. None of the sides have never been like “this is enough”. It’s an endless cycle of violence, whoever are the participants.
Not to mention that Turalyon is the Alliance character I would least expect to be the warmongerer in the Alliance cast without some serious blunder from the side of the Horde which won’t come for the same reason you’ve mentioned.
He empathized with the orcs before he truly knew the extent of their plight in Draenor and was only shocked out of it when Doomhammer killed Anduir Lothar in single combat right in front of him. He was Lightforged and fought in Argus for what was to him, a thousand years, and still worked alongside Illidan right after he killed Xe’ra and explained himself.
Yes, he did torture that one civilian who meant no harm, but what’s never mentioned is that it was under dire circumstances, and he felt extremely uncomfortable about it throughout it all, even though that who they were doing it on was a forsaken; and left said forsaken and the refugees he was shepherding alone the moment they got what they needed out of it.
Out of all characters to turn into the Alliance’s version of Garrosh, Turalyon would be the most non-sensical of them all.
Multiple, actually. The next scene they’re in, they’re torturing someone else, while the person’s family is forced to watch.
Actually he abducted the Forsaken who told them what they wanted to know, and had them taken to Stormwind, which was the last we heard of them. For all we know they’re still in the Stockades.
My Monkey Paw thought is that they haven’t forgotten about Lothraxion; he’s just going to be real identity of the leader of the Scarlet Crusade’s sudden revival.
I just wanna know why Lothraxion never warned us about Denathrius if he wasn’t a bad guy (Blizzard hadn’t actually thought that far ahead). It would have been a cool twist if Lothraxion was just another agent of the Sire, gulping down the Light juice to steer the war to the desired outcome.
I think the same, he is literally asking for it. Then we defeat him and he escapes to SL or something and saying something about Denathrius to be still out there and plotting somehing.
I think that’s what he is. There is item in the game confirming he (Denathrius) has agents in every cosmo power.
Varimathras is another confusing one. He tries to coup Sylvanas, the person Zovaal wanted to recruit as his lieutenant, then suggests he knew what she was up to by the time we see him again in Legion.
Mildly spicy take but I think it would’ve been cool if Varimathras had ended up actually being Forsaken loyal instead of doing Wrathgate stuff for the Legion.
Like originally he just got bullied into helping in WC3 but after a while he went “actually this is better than the Legion? I get respect and I’m not constantly having to fight for hierarchy?? It’s kinda cushy actually.”
He’s still not a good guy and ultimately kinda selfish and self-interested, but at least he’s not dealing with constant dreadlord backstabbing…
Another point for the lack of a Horde narrative is: Why?
Looking at the Alliance stories moving forward, what do we have to focus on for them?
A lot of their needs or plots are either resolved, forgotten or require drastically changing things.
The most I got is:
Gnomes finally getting their city back (turn the dungeon into a timewalk thing)
Thats it. I can’t think of any other Alliance plot lines or narrative, barring the War Within seemingly going to focus humans and void elves.
Meanwhile, you have plenty of narratives to focus on the Horde.
Tauren with the centaur, Grimtotem, even fixing up the Southern Barrens so the gates can open, Ebonhorn’s new status as Earth Warder and his ties with Highmountain.
Trolls and Vol’jin, working with the Zandalari, fixing bonds with other troll tribes
Orcs regaining stronger spiritual ties, perhaps even spreading out into the Barrens to repair the damage done by Garrosh.
Mag’har preparing so they can reclaim their lost home.
Forsaken rebuilding their city, finding a future for themselves. Maybe even focus on freeing Scourge as a means to replenish their numbers. Oh, and removing Calia.
Goblins taking this chance to help powerhouse the Horde economy.
There is a lot that can be done here. And none of it needs to sacrifice Horde identity or follow the Alliance
Night elves rebuild their city. Cool. Good story. Now, you focus on something with the Horde. Forsaken rebuild their city.
This is what I hoped for, when I first realized they would actually go trough with the reclamanation. ( I doubted that until the patch night, got to be honest) and I still hope they will find it in themself to add a re-built Undercity in future contend.
The cleaning up of Undercity have already started in lore… but what I want is an actual up date on the progress of the effort either visually or lore/questing.
You do that in the questline as Calia proves herself to the forsaken.
This would add so much to to both sides, and I speculated greatly and low key hope it might spark future skirmishes or wars between Undercity and Gilneas.
I’d find that relationship and situation quite intressting and fun to explore!
In stead of having Blizz make a new zone and places… over and over.
But, alas with the way things are going, I’m doubtful - Wishful thinking!
One of my RP characters, have made this point public, several times to his fellow Gilneans, that one of the reasons he does not worry about the forsaken is because, they can’t really afford to have a war even if either side wanted to - since both Gilneas and Undercity is ruined, one more than the other perhaps but, thats besides the point, and need re-building and that doing anything else is complete senseless for both parties.
Hes got a more ‘‘First we rebuild, then we fight and cross that bridge when it comes to it. But if they try anything we will F## them up proper’’ look at it.
Nothing is forgiven (keeping an eye are your pesky neighbouris is on the agenda) but you got to be smart about it.
This is what we call sloppy writing. Dreadlords/Nathrezim = Denathrius’ secret children. Denathrius = working for the Jailer for WHO KNOWS HOW LONG = why is one of his secret agents actively working to undermine the GRAND DESIGN ™
Because Danuser has no idea what he’s doing and is building his cosmicism worldbuilding of the works of better writers and then pretending he wrote it all.
- Wishful thinking!