That’s how psychology works, and this is how wow works. People get attached to the game, to the items in it, and more. Even if the game becomes bad, many will still defend it as a way to avoid facing the truth that they spent a big part of their life on something that isnt good anymore. Blizzard knows this and that’s why the game is made with low effort now. And good that you recognize addiction as well.
Well I tried that approach. All I got was whispers about my mum and STDs.
says the person who admitted to disabling chat in group content
Finest post I’ve read on here in the many years I have been playing, you’re right in every aspect.
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Having people gank up on you for one opinion in the hundreds of opinions does not mean there’s a hive mind. It’s a hive mind when you see the majority of posters have the exact same opinion on the majority of topics.
Even within the same topic 2 people can agree on one facet and disagree on another.
Its not really 1 specific opinion. Any general sense that you are not actively hating on Blizzard can earn you all kinds of…tittles…and actually supporting Blizzard…oh boy…you will be public enemy number one.
Just take a general view of the forums. Regardless whats being discussed its most of the times done in a anti-blizz tone and if you take a neutral stance or disagree with it then you get “shut up Shill!, go away white knight!” treatment.
Try it yourself, go to any topic here and just say something along the lines of “well I think Blizzard is right on this one” you will be tar&feathered and branded as Blizzard defender/shill in no time. 
I could say the same in reverse. Every criticizing of the game on this forum is met with the same posters who try to either gaslight you, belittle you or the topic, or straight up try to get the thread removed.
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/cries in hunter
Depends on the topic and how its made. The soloQ thread a while back actually had a promising start and there was a nice non-insulting discussion going. It became a circus when OP simply started to shutdown any non agreeing opinion with “u just stuped toxic elitist gatekeeper”.
If the so called crittism thread is made like this: “hahaha Blizzard bad, u bad, haha me right cause me pro playar hahahaha LOOOL!” then dont be surprised if most people wont take the thread seriously and will just make a 
out of the said thread’s OP instead…
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ChatGPT is polishing people’s English pretty well, so if English is not your main language and you want to be understood better, why not use it to polish your message to sound better to others?
What, “Wrote ChatGPT” reply on this thread to OP’s main message supposed to mean? What kind of contribution is this to the subject?
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People have been skipping trash since vanilla Stratholme and BRD. The difference is now the playerbase actually understands efficiency and dungeon routing. You are blaming skips for players dying but the problem is not the skips it is people not knowing how to navigate them. If you want to play safe and clear everything organise your own group. The tools exist. But expecting randoms to prioritise your safety over efficiency is naive. Players have always optimised. You are just frustrated now because the average player expects others to play smarter.
That is not new either. AH wars existed in classic WoW EQ FFXI and beyond. Undercutting happens because it works. Yes people tank prices. Yes the economy can spiral. That is called a player-driven economy and people have been gaming it for two decades. If you want price stability play a single-player RPG with fixed shop values. Otherwise welcome to free markets. Nobody is obligated to price their items to maximise your profits.
High-end raiding and Mythic Plus exist for a reason. You say guilds should lift up weaker players but progression guilds are not there to babysit. They are there to clear content. You even admitted you expect guild help so you can eventually give back but guilds have been burned by that cycle over and over. Plenty of players take the help get their gear and vanish. Guilds protect themselves by screening and they have every right to. Want a social guild Join one. Expecting progression groups to hand-hold is unrealistic.
PUGs have always been toxic. Anyone who ran classic Molten Core or tried to PUG TBC heroics knows this. The only difference now is communication is faster expectations are clearer and people rage openly. You want on-the-job training That is called learning outside the key. Watch guides practice fail in lower keys improve. Expecting randoms in your plus seven to hold your hand while risking their key devalues their time too. You want to grow Earn it. Nobody taught the top players either they learned by failing researching and grinding like everyone else.
The second you build a system where everyone must slow down for the lowest performer people either leave or the system collapses. MMOs rely on performance gates. If you remove them to protect feelings content dies. You mentioned community but real communities are built around shared standards not coddling everyone endlessly.
Of course people value their time. It is a game not a daycare. You signed up for a competitive time-consuming genre with measurable outputs like logs and IO. Expecting players to pretend this is a charity event is why people clash. They come for challenge rewards efficiency not to prop up every random stranger who did not prepare.
You act like WoW used to be this utopia of support but even in classic ninja looting raid lockouts GDKP runs and hardcore guild segregation existed. The only difference now is the systems expose how competitive people always were.
Stop demanding the entire genre slow down because you dislike how it evolved. WoW gives you tools to find likeminded players. Want slow dungeon clears Form a group. Want economy stability Coordinate pricing with your guild. Want mentorship Run your own learning static. The tools exist. Blaming everyone else for playing efficiently or competitively shows you are unwilling to adapt.
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Yes, happens all the time
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At that point you are, were since they took that away a while back, a cash cow since they obviously dont give a rats about you.
Ive been in my guild for at least 2 expansion. Not many raid, not many M+. A lot of them are collectors and achievement chasers. NP. Ive always Pugged M+ so am used to it.
They dotn raid however and i do like to raid. But i can pug that as well. Just not wanted to do it much this time around.
The money benefit to guilds is now taken away. No more cash cows. That was a while back
It’s fine, I don’t take seriously people who defend blindly either.
True, i found very irritating all this “you wrote with chatgpt lul”.
There 24 languages in the EU plus all the dialects, not everyone has the same level of Enlgish.
Chatgpt gives a great help to people with lower knowledge to comunicate better.
Instead of insulting people for using it we should be happy that they have this too at their disposal.
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What’s funny it’s that those native English speakers usually know only one language as well. Yet they are first to judge
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Maybe people who think like that can’t actually read. If they could they’d see that there is criticism and praise.
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Tldr. So many wrong things in your post, but thats your oppinion and that you have to respect as well.
It’s strange how people only mention ChatGPT when talking about writing tools, as if it’s the only option. Spelling and grammar tools have been around for years. Some take longer to use, like LLMs where you have to prompt the machine properly. Others, like Grammarly or the built-in tools on phones and computers, work automatically. Spellcheck alone has been around for over twenty years doing the same basic job. Despite all this, there’s still a group of people who reject these tools and criticise anyone who uses them. It’s as if they believe using technology means you can’t write properly on your own. It makes no sense to shame people for using what’s available to improve the reader’s experience.
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Theres a big difference between:
- These are my views on the topic, and;
- ChatGPT, write an angsty diatribe on why xxx sucks in wow.
I’d prefer to hear someones thoughts, not a prompt that plagiarizes other peoples thoughts.
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