Key depletion finally gone!

I am not sure why something can not happen when a lot of players would want it.

Well, lets keep hoping and praying then :slightly_smiling_face:

I mean, when the only counter argument is ‘well blizz will never do that’, on a very easy system proposed what a lot of people benefit and is quite logical (having a couple of tries on your challenge), then i suppose it was actually a very good suggestion.

We can close the forums anyway when that is the argumentation. Blizz will never do anything suggested.

I never said it wasnt a good suggestion? It most certainly is, it would be near perfect.
However if you still have that much trust left after all that has happened, keep happening and has not happened, you are certainly a lot more trusting than i am.

I am not trusting it. I am suggesting this since BFA. It is still not here.

But why do you think blizz will do what YOU suggested?
That is also a lot of hopium. You seem to have a lot of trust too?

Because the suggestion is far from perfect and simply by judging current and past decisions made, has a higher chance of making it through than the actual best one.

I mean look at what they are doing now. How is that in any way meant to be similar to what we have been asking for.

Sure, I trust them more than the average forum-goer and their reasoning or ideas (which often are pure and utter nonsense). Also, the current state of M+ is mostly fine - there are some pain points but most of all it’s just a community-issue.

And using the copium argument is just one of those forum-idiocies. Don’t ever use that.

You are entitled to your opinion, fellow forum-goer.

It makes sense if you think about how many people will buy boosts to get all 12s in order to then be able to pug weekly 10s that never deplete :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

Currently 2700 score is top 10% territory, so over 90% of players will find the 2850 cutoff out of their reach by organic means.

But who knows, maybe S2 tuning will be a bit softer in general. It’s only tuning. Blizzard might tune the numbers and aim for >50% of players being able to naturally achieve 2850.

Thats a borderline impossible tuning change tbh. The 50% cutoff currently is below 2k score, probably somewhere around 1.8k.

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They have already shown the 12 affix will be harder and dungeons like darkflame, priory with so many jumping mobs bleeds aoes and casters, cinderbrew with huge aoe damage will all be nuts I think. I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s harder not easier

really ? so youre telling me people spamming +12 keys ? XD

whew !

Why would a mythic raider do a +12? The vault ends at 10. The way the +12 affix works it turns it into a 15 rather than a 12, the jump is massive.

It isnt catering to Mythic raiders as otherwise they would set the bar lower. Also Mythic raiders are asking for seperation from M+ since god knows how many tiers now. And PvPers have even less reason for wanting to do M+.

Find your scapegoat somewhere else.

Its not just Raiders asking for that, m+ players are asking for that at least as much.

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I got to +12 and I only did like 3 nm bosses. I hate raiding so much.

It kills the hype before the season starts knowing the best gear drops from content I don’t do :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

The annoyance of depletes depends on the overall difficulty.

Harder seasons means you deplete more often. Easier seasons its the other way around.

So if blizzard truly does nerf everything by 50%, then what is the point of this change then?

It would still only benefit alts.

I may be missing something, but I only see this benefiting a very small % of players who really push the highest keys?

Don’t think many people get to achieve 2850 index, so not sure this will bring any tangible improvements for the wider player population :face_with_monocle:

It doesnt even benefit the players who push the highest keys. The highest keys are +18/19. 2850 is timing 12’s :grin:

I do not feel like it is benefitting anyone.

how would this change work?

Is there really that many with that score in current season?