Nobody cares about your individual experience. Especially not about CEs, that can be bought for 100 euro
I am not sure. Based on the observations in the guilds I was in throughout the tiers it always felt like half of our roster was always there to get their Curve, and then they just skipped on joining raids from that point on. Their goal was to get that Curve, and from that point on the game was done for them, and they shown little interest in helping others achieve it.
The general playerbase these days just do their weekly 15 in whatever way they can, and use raid to get their Curve. That is not because Mythic invalidates Heroic, but rather, because the “easily” acquirable Mythic ilvl gear from the weekly vault invalidates the existence of Heroic for many.
M+ devalues Heroic way more than Mythic raids do.
That said I would not mind if Mythic would be turned into a raid difficulty for unique cosmetics, made easier, and in exchange heroic would be tuned up slightly in terms of difficulty. Though Heroic gear being the cap may help counteract it.
I do not think that would help, and to an extent you are seeing it in LFR as well, where a lot of people rely on those so called “sweaty tryhards” to get through the content itself. It was always how Blizzard structured their instanced content: Dumb down queue-able content a lot, and add in incentives/requirements that coerce/force better players to improve the success metrics.
And it is not like this content is hard. On N’zoth LFR you only had to do two things:
- Do the legendary cloak questline so you do not get immediately mind controlled.
- Press an action button when your sanity was low.
The result? N’zoth was the only boss in history where having 10 stacks of determination was not enough for players to down the boss.
I think that can be attributed to many factors, a lot of content in the game being too easy is one. Easy content does not encourage you to learn the ins and outs of your spec, it does not challenge you, but if people want that then good for them, but then they have to settle with the thought of not having the best gear.
M+ was already destroying the difficulty/reward ratio, which their new change may fix on the long run.
In the end a healthy game require both type of players, not just one. Bracketing is only really a thing for PvP focused games, and isn’t really a thing for PvE focused multiplayer games.
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you don’t need to be boosted you need to put some time in to it this instant gratification of the player base is what wrung with the player base they see some think and insed of working for it want to handed to them and if some one has some think they don’t that cry about it
I disagree. They both kill semi-hardcore raiding. Can’t really say, what is worse, but fact is, alot of people raid heroic, while filling their vault, that gives better gear to them from M+15. Heroic raiding is fun for alot of people, even if they don’t get gear, but read what I said: Heroic raiding should give the highest ilvl together with professions, and m+ should give the same ilvl in weekly vaults
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Sure it does… not many people killed last boss, therfore it was difficult enough that there was something to work towards the whole tier which is great.
Or there was a mass exodus from the game and many guilds skipped the season.
Or as blizzard has admitted that, that tier was to hard.
You select your conclusion and try to fit the data to support that conclusion. If you’re allowed to do that, so am i.
ALL Ms should be erased. im also for M plus without gear.
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Never got coached, and didnt buy a boost… still got CE
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That’s way too far. Can’t anyone on this problem think reasonably in a mild way??! No wonder blizzard never reads it
M+ is hands down the greatest system Blizzard implemented in the history of wow (it is above raiding/arenas/bg for sure), and it will stay for a very very long time. Because it is great system, it has massive replayability, it has difficulties ranging from “casual” to “mid range” to “pushing minmaxers”, it is even open to some cheeses (like how high can you push solo/duo?), etc.
Ofc, there are ways to improve it (removing random key, and just allowing players to start w/e key they want would be a great step forward).
If you don’t like the system - no one forces you to play it. I don’t like pvp in wow - and I almost never do arena/BG.
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Ahh, you dont want to hear about people who expose your lies for being lies… i am oh so sorry about that.
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the fact that people in this thread are stating you bought CE or got coached shows how fragile and outrageous their argument for free gear is, if they want free gear go play farmville or smth
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I like M+, but it should give maximum the same ilvl as heroic raiding. Mythic raiding should also be on the same ilvl, and just some glory thing. I don’t understand, why people want world of boostcraft to persist. Maybe just some boosters on the forum trolling.
Also, if you finish your char ilvl-wise before a season ends: Guess what, it’s perfect. Go outside, or get your alt ready, or something
your hurting his fragile ego aww poor baby
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It’s funny, they cant imagine a world where just talking with people and saying hey, lets raid for 3 hours twice a week could mean they can actaully do the hardest content in the game… sure you have to do a few things outside the raid… but you can get CE in your average tier with an avg 10 hpur play time a week or less.
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ahaha i got, it i dont have high hopes for this game anyway. i came for prepatch, for a while, tried to enjoy shaman got 25 nerf… i dont want to level another spec, to be able to be competetive xD. My personal think is DF gona be the biggest fail ever., after all Legion, BFA, Shadow Comparing it to Insane wotlk hype. where everything is almost for free and ppl doing it anyways. just good story and content nothing more is needed, no 4 raid diff 30 Mythics…
Go buy your boosts please, noone cares about mythic raiders feeling superior with ilvl. People don’t wanna be 10 ilvls behind for not being neets. Heroic raiding should be enough for maximum ilvl
Yea… so cruel of me, i feel bad about it and will enjoy a beer in penance
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Why should i buy a boost if i can just do it with a guild 
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we dont fill superior we are are and the gear we have on provers it
Well, not my gear, i didnt play season 4 
Does that mean i should throw a temper tantrum because i dont have bis gear?
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