Language in Public chats

No one reads the ToS; the type of person who does read the ToS is not the type of person people usually want to hang out with.

This mentality of the” ToS says” is irrelevant because most don’t care. The ToS is just there to cover the company, and they know people don’t read it but have a general sense of the spirit of it.

Most people will not have issues with someone speaking a mix of English and French. The problem is when it comes to dungeons, raids, and group content in general. This is when issues in the community escalate, and friction starts to occur. This is why I used the Japanese server in FF14, for example. I’ve been in groups where the entire group spoke German, couldn’t speak a word of English, and we were on an English server, and we couldn’t get through the content. There’s not fair in me, and it’s not fair on them because now we both lose.

When you come into a community and they speak another language, you have to acknowledge that language because everyone will be speaking it. It will make others uncomfertable if they see another language. There’s just human nature, and there is no point demonising that.

This is why sayings such as “ when in Rome” can be traced back to 4. A.D. People who don’t like that have worse manners than a dark-age peasant because even people back then, with all their issues, understood that if you are going into a community with another language, customs, beliefs, ways of doing things, etc. Make an effort to fit in. Standing on a high horse and calling them racist for preferring their way of doing things because it means you have to take some form of social responsibility is insane.

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“I was low key ignoring you” — haha~
Cute…
You’re full on ignored from now on on all my toons.
There’s no use trying to talk sense with you, sadly.

I wondered how the ignored function worked on this forum. It’s great I don’t even have to see their spite. :joy: They are out of sight, out of mind.

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I wish it made them unable to post in your topics too tho, or hit reply on you, or heck - even the “hidden reply” should be gone.
I just want to live in bliss, goshdarnit~ :worm:

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If they act like the person above, they will have to deal with others like them because everyone will block them. Nothing is ever so simple as yes or no, context matters. What’s correct in one situation may not be correct in another. Also, just because something is correct in this situation doesn’t mean it won’t cause secondary or even tertiary problems down the line where it may need to be corrected.

Context is a critical miss for most people nowadays.
It’s very annoying when someone cuts and pastes in your posts, too.

And the quote people cut out will be:

Its very annoying

And then they reply to only this, with something like “Why are you annoyed with potatos?”

– I’ve seen some crazy quote-cuts in my days on these forums…

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It’s not about discussing the point. It’s about shaming those you disagree with via gotcha moments. They are the type of person who searches your Twitter timeline and goes back ten years to find that one controversial post to try and destroy your reputation. If they can’t do that, they makeup points that have relevance to the subject but have nothing to do with what you stated, so then you’re just talking past each other because they want to continue with their framing of the issue.

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Both types are an issue tho. :dracthyr_cry_animated:
I wish people were just… nice and respectful, while also being able to be logical and realistic.

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“Your topic”. :rofl:

It’s not hard, but these people think themselves out of reality and act with an ego to complete strangers.

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Delusion + pseudo science + chatgpt = interesting times.

Who cares if they’re speaking English or not? You should be grateful there is some kind of activity on General chat, lol.
Maybe they want to find other people with the same nationality as them. If you don’t understant, you are not the target audience.
Just because you don’t understant what they’re saying, it doesn’t mean you should.

People writing on their own language in a video game. Wow… must be really frustrating for you, I udnerstand it. Force them to write on another language, just give them mute, ban, delete their account, report them to the Interpol.

But seriously… You could get rude answer on any subject, it’s not related to their language use, therefore I don’t get how is it any relevant. In case if it’s not rudeness what triggers you, but people using a language what you don’t understand… I don’t know man… take a little break and go out to the fresh air. :melting_face:

its time to realise how much english devaluated as “World common language” .

USA is falling apart UK already fallen so its natural that people rather speak their native languages then english .

in future chinese / arabic will be much more important anyway so time to learn :slight_smile:

I figured I’d give it a search, and found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/s/VotlY5H1Y9

If you scroll down, it becomes clear this is specifically for the EU. It’s from 4 years ago tho, so if there has been any change since it may not apply anymore. Besides that, GM’s have had different interpretations of certain rules before, and the lack of any rules in the ToS or Social Contract doesn’t make it very transparent.

I found it interesting to see on private servers it is indeed enforced, even if that obviously has nothing to do with Blizzard. It does point at it being a ‘tangible thing’, and not something to be ridiculed right out of the gate.

I mulled it over, I thought the public street analogy was interesting. The difficulty is the perspective, either it’s a ‘public street’ or a ‘communal space’. These two things will get treated differently by anyone with some sense of etiquette, it’s quite simple.

Personally I find the public street perspective quite depressing, because it hints at how much WoW has lost its community feel.

It must be fun to go on holiday with that guy, presumably he expects everyone he travels with to be fluent in the native language of whichever country they visit before they go. As it would be very disrespectful if you’d speak a different language while there and exclude all the locals from your conversations.

once upon a time people while traveling abroad used this as oportunity to learn at least few basic phrases in foreign languages of countries they were visiting.

nowadays - with how "idiocracy " rules andpeople are proud of being uneducated ? ofc they demand everything tailored to them :slight_smile:

western cywilization is falling in extremly rapid phase. and its a fact.

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This isn’t analogous to a person travelling abroad.

Even if your premise wasn’t ridiculous, a few basic phrases is normally stuff like asking a taxi driver to take you to the hotel or ordering a beer from a bar and saying thank you.

I’m not sure how that equates to (possibly) a 13 year old from rural Romania, or someone living in a yurt in Mongolia trying to ask a question like “how do I travel to westfall to skin boars for a questgiver” in English.

But sure, civilization is doomed because your post wasn’t full of ridiculous hyperbole at all :roll_eyes:

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Imagine experiencing different cultures in their ancestral homelands as intended, only to get angry, calling them racist when they don’t behave like you and expect you to behave so as not to disrupt their way of life. :joy:

Imagine thinking your example has anything to do with the topic at hand :rofl: