Lead game designer Rompuche

[Ozric-darkspear (Ozric)]

Rompuche for lead game designer

[Logtar-sargeras]

Or yes we are, keep bumping the thread

[Ponytaîl-elune]

Stopped reading at reforging.

[Morzan-flamelash]

there are no datas just a bulleted list and the for is even gross.

they will not hire you not even as an intern kek.

every serious designer will not even read it.

[Gannet-twisting-nether (Gannet)]

@Shihiroki-kirin-tor

Here is the thing : the argument they used to scrap those systems is flawed since it was about making game simpler.

You’re making assumptions here but even so, even IF they wanted to “make the game simpler”, removing those systems seems to accomplish that goal, so it’s not flawed.
Also just cause a decision was made almost 10 years ago, they don’t have to keep to that philosophy forever. But again, this isn’t even the case, i’m only entertaining your assumption.

[Slapface-kazzak]

@Brutum-drakthul

So if someone wanted to get into PvP, they would need to farm PvP gear through - you guessed it - PvP. It took over 100 battlegrounds to get full BG gear.

That’s not the case anymore though. I remember doing a few BGs doing the leveling process, by the time I reached level 60 I had half of my 171 gear already. Farming a full set of honor gear takes less than two days of intense BGs, it’d be even faster in arena.
This wouldn’t be an issue.

@Brutum-drakthul

It also feels absolutely horrible when one spends weeks or months progressing through the latest Heroic/Mythic raid, spending hours upon hours practicing, wiping, looking for ways to improve to finally down the hardest content in the game and earn the absolute best gear one could possibly have, only to then get absolutely wrecked by someone in a BG gear.

“hardest content in the game” is debatable, I’d say it’s high rated 3v3 arena.
But in any case, PvE is PvE, PvP is PvP. It makes perfect sense that the best PvP gear should come from PvP. It’s completely fine, and it’s fair to those for whom PvP is their main activity.

@Brutum-drakthul

Now that Resilience is gone, I can actually enjoy PvP

And now that it’s gone, PvP-only players can no longer enjoy PvP.
Not before spamming PvE first.
I believe PvP should be made better for those who enjoy it the most, not for those to whom it’s just a fun side activity. Wouldn’t you agree?

@Brutum-drakthul

PvE trinkets are considerably more fun than PvP ones.

Fun for those who use them, maybe. Feel free to make a poll on the arena forums, but I’m pretty sure your opinion is the minority here. PvE trinkets have plagued arena for quite a well, and are thoroughly disliked among competitive players.

@Brutum-drakthul

Removing even more player choice from the game is not what WoW needs right now.

The “choice” to play a tank in arena should simply not exist. Feel free and queue 2s until you meet a Prot paladin + DPS comp, it’s really not an enjoyable experience.

[Rastakhin-draenor]

well sh*t… U actually posted something i can actually agree with.

[Rastakhin-draenor]

@Brutum-drakthul

It also feels absolutely horrible when one spends weeks or months progressing through the latest Heroic/Mythic raid, spending hours upon hours practicing, wiping, looking for ways to improve to finally down the hardest content in the game and earn the absolute best gear one could possibly have, only to then get absolutely wrecked by someone in a BG gear. And then possibly even get corpse-camped and absolutely humiliated by said person in a BG gear because you simply don’t stand a chance in your absolute BiS against them.

it would also feel horrible for someone whos farmed the absolute BiS out of PvP content racked up tons of high Arenna Scores and everything

to be absolutely Trashed by a Mythic Geared Player just because their better the their absolute BiS.

Ever thrown the glove on the other hand?.. your describing the exact problem PvP players are currently having. should the Pvp Systems not cater to the dedicated PvP Players before allowing a Mythic raider Moments to rub their egos?

[Rastakhin-draenor]

im nnot convinced if this is bait or not… i’ve seenn this man say many many things… and alot of it doesnt make as much sense as this post.

but this is one of the posts u wish blizzard would read >.>

[Slapface-kazzak]

I’m sad to report I haven’t been contacted by Blizzard just yet.

[Rastakhin-draenor]

Concepts of actually deviding content to overall improve the Ability to actually aim good changes for them is beyond their IQs maybe they got stuck on reading the first sentence and having to check the dictionary

on a Serious note… its kinda amazing that the changes needed are quite as Simple as pushing a few systems back to the games orginal models…

[Logtar-sargeras]

You will maybe be contacted by Riot

[Brutum-drakthul]

@Slapface-kazzak

But in any case, PvE is PvE, PvP is PvP. It makes perfect sense that the best PvP gear should come from PvP. It’s completely fine, and it’s fair to those for whom PvP is their main activity.

I just can’t get behind this thinking. I think it’s just terrible to be condemned to a loss before a fight has even started just because of the gear you just so happen to be wearing or because you enjoy a certain activity more. That’s neither fair, nor fun. Gear should be a reward for effort and skill, and if 2 players show similar amounts of skill and effort put into gearing, they should both have an equal chance of emerging victorious from a fight, regardless of the activity they put their effort and skill into.

@Slapface-kazzak

I believe PvP should be made better for those who enjoy it the most, not for those to whom it’s just a fun side activity. Wouldn’t you agree?

But how do you decide for whom it is a side activity? For me it was a side activity for years specifically because of Resilience. No, I still don’t PvP as much as I do PvE, but that’s mainly because PvP lives or dies with Class design and I think that’s absolutely dreadful right now.

@Slapface-kazzak

Fun for those who use them, maybe. Feel free to make a poll on the arena forums, but I’m pretty sure your opinion is the minority here. PvE trinkets have plagued arena for quite a well, and are thoroughly disliked among competitive players.

But both of these issues should be solved by doing trinkets sensibly, like I suggested in my previous post.

@Slapface-kazzak

The “choice” to play a tank in arena should simply not exist. Feel free and queue 2s until you meet a Prot paladin + DPS comp, it’s really not an enjoyable experience.

“Enjoyable experience” is a very subjective term though, innit? I heard people complain about forever-lasting arena games caused by overly powerful healers, but to me punishing healer teams by introducing damping mechanics and similar is a far worse alternative. I don’t have the slightest issue with tanks in the arena.

@Rastakhin-draenor

it would also feel horrible for someone whos farmed the absolute BiS out of PvP content racked up tons of high Arenna Scores and everything

to be absolutely Trashed by a Mythic Geared Player just because their better the their absolute BiS.

Ever thrown the glove on the other hand?.. your describing the exact problem PvP players are currently having. should the Pvp Systems not cater to the dedicated PvP Players before allowing a Mythic raider Moments to rub their egos?

I agree, but by introducing Resilience you are just moving the issue onto somebody else, instead of trying to find a solution. I believe PvE and PvP gearing is balanceable where one can do either and be competitive in either. I think Shadowlands might be a step in the right direction in this regard, and I think we might not be too far off this goal with some tweaking.

[Shihiroki-kirin-tor]

Removing systems for the sake of simplicity to then revert it after 1 expansion is quite contradictory. I’m not in favour of bringing back a system for the sake of it, I’m just saying that removing a system to implement more complex ones is not a brilliant idea imho

[Waygos-kazzak (Waygos)]

@Slapface-kazzak

Under my leadership, here are a list of changes that would be made to the game:

General

• Reforging is back.
• Sockets are always part of certain item slots, such as chest items. No RNG involved, no external grind involved.
• Rings and Necklaces once again have Primary stats. Combined with reforging, this change will make looting a higher ilvl ring with the wrong stats not as frustrating as it is now.
• Borrowed powers are completely gone. Reaching max level is all you need to do in order to unlock 100% of your class’ abilities and tools.
• Flying can be purchased with gold upon completing the main storyline of each zone.
• Pathfinder is a limited time Feat of Strength that grants an account wind speed increase in the expansion zones, as well as an exclusive mount.

PvE:

• Reintroduction of Justice and Valor points.
• Justice points are awarded for completing normal/heroic dungeons, and allow you to purchase M+0 quality gear.
• Valor points are awarded for completing raids/m+ and allow you to purchase Normal raiding items - that can be upgraded up to Mythic raiding quality.
• Each raid boss and M+ key completion grants an amount of valor points that increases with difficulty.
• Valor points have a weekly cap that increases every week, similar to the PvP conquest cap.
• Low/Average drop rates from bosses - slightly better than current drop rates, but still lower than previous expansions since PvE currencies are reintroduced.
• Completing a Mythic raid before the next content patch awards an Elite recolor of the raid set, similar to seasonal elite PvP sets.

PvP:

• Arenas and RBGs can now loot conquest items, with similar drop rates to M+ items.
• Resilience is back.
• An armor set bonus is introduced, enhancing the effects of Resilience even further.
• Disable all PvE trinkets when entering PvP.
• You can’t join arena in tank specialization.
• Class design reverted to a pre-Legion state for several classes. Tweak from there.
• Gladiator is back to being 0,5% of the PvP ladder.
• PvP talents such as Shadow duel and Greater Pyroblast are removed from the game.
• Bring back the battleground blacklist
• Either mute Nathanos, or remove Seething shore entirely.
• Bring back separated 2v2/3v3 skirmishes
• Bring back elite weapon appearances.

Where is Blizzard from hiring you?

[Logtar-sargeras]

@Shihiroki-kirin-tor

Removing systems for the sake of simplicity to then revert it after 1 expansion is quite contradictory

That’s what’s blizzard doing for a while.

[Brilho-frostmane]

@Slapface-kazzak

PvP:

• Arenas and RBGs can now loot conquest items, with similar drop rates to M+ items.
• Resilience is back.
• An armor set bonus is introduced, enhancing the effects of Resilience even further.
• Disable all PvE trinkets when entering PvP.
• You can’t join arena in tank specialization.
• Class design reverted to a pre-Legion state for several classes. Tweak from there.
• Gladiator is back to being 0,5% of the PvP ladder.
• PvP talents such as Shadow duel and Greater Pyroblast are removed from the game.
• Bring back the battleground blacklist
• Either mute Nathanos, or remove Seething shore entirely.
• Bring back separated 2v2/3v3 skirmishes
• Bring back elite weapon appearances.

I agree with the bottom 5, the rest is not so great imo

[Marslyia-draenor]

This and wow will be the even better than wrath numbers.

[Logtar-sargeras]

Oh yes it will.

[Daestra-turalyon]

Your best post ever OP and i hate having to say it