Least Favourite Dungeon

Any dungeon that simultaneously is very easy and spawns adds on a timed basis. So Black Morass, the Violet Hold, etc.

These dungeons are just plain boring. You’re just waiting around for the dungeon to throw something at you and then deleting it instantly.

This problem is not present in Torghast.

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This! Violet Hold was just the worst! :smiley:

Factually correct 100% this

Your just standing there and waiting lizardians to spawn which then just get depleted instantly so the waiting feels weird

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All from Dragonflight they are the worst

I think Maraudon was fine. I think Dire Maul was terrible (it looks like some poorly made Quake 1 level). Otherwise, good list. Anything with RP blocks is bad.

Oculus is also worth calling out as a bad dungeon. The multiple vertical levels and free flying make it extremely hard to navigate. And the special flying mounts are super annoying to play with.

Why do so many people hate Shrine of the Storms? I think the last swimming section was annoying in M+, but otherwise the dungeon was fine if the tank knows how to pull and the others know how that “green protective ring” thing from that mini-boss work.

As I only really ran dungeons up to WoD my repsonse is somewhat limited.
But I would have to say Occulus. I just couldn’t do it unless I was with good friends who could guide me around. The idea of Flying around on Dragons doing ariel combat sounded cool until I got in there and tried it.

Vanilla: None
TBC: None
Wrath: None
Cataclysm: none
MoP: Siege of Niuzao Temple and Gate of the setting sun
WoD: Grimrail Depot
Legion: none
BFA: Kings’ rest, Tol Dagor and Mechagon
Shadowlands: everything else because Shadowlands was the HARDEST dungeoning expansion, hardest Keystone Master achievements
Dragonflight: Everything else again, 2 HARDEST dungeoning expansions in a row

Every instance in BfA.

I quite like Brackenhide, thought I’d hate it, now it’s one of my favorite dungeons, same for Neltharus.

My favorite, is probably King’s Rest.

Least favorite dungeon is sky high Siege of Boralus (BFA).

Pfft.
This is heresy.
Blackrock mountains, all of it, has godlike lore and detail.~
The ones that force us to use mounts, artefacts, etc…

Violet hold, halls of stone, black morass, escape from dunholde and culling of strsthopme from tbc…

Every place that has anoying unskipsble long boring daunting RP element …is dog :poop:

May i ask all of you… Do you hate them in m+ system os in general as dungeons mechanics etc. I mean wouldn’t it be more fun doing them if there wasn’t an m+ system any more?

Wow is an easy game tbh outside of the bloat. It just has a huge barrier to entry. You just need to understand how the content works. If you understand what mobs/bosses do, it’s not hard, but learning it takes time.

Bro, there were people who couldn’t hook stitchflesh late into season 3. People that had been playing since shadowlands launched. I read the journal and was like “uh, ok?” and then saw it play out in the beta and then I knew how to hook stitchflesh.

Just like in school: Some people need 10 years to learn arithmetics and other people need 1 month. Some study for a vocabulary test in 1 hour and get 100% correct, while others study 7 hours and fail.

If you compare wow to a FPS game though, it is mechanically very very easy. It also doesn’t require IQ contrary to, let’s say chess, because it’s mostly about knowing stuff. Although you can argue a lot of people in chess play with memorised tactics. All the skill in wow comes from learning something by heart and recognizing it in the game.

The vast majority of players can’t even walk past mobs without pulling them, lol.

Also, most players in FPS games suck as well.

Yeah there is clearly cognitive difference between players, but I mean you can play 2000 hours call of duty over a span of 10 years and you may lose to a 16 years old kid, who picked the game up last summer, with good mechanics and reactions. In wow, this will probably not happen, because the skill-component of the game is mostly about memorizing things and muscle memory.

That’s also why I think wow does not really deserve to be an esport. It simply does not fit the criterias that esports require, and I call it “pseudo-esport”, because I personally don’t think it’s skillful to just know pulls by heart and coordinate against scripted pve mobs. However, I do enjoy wow as a game a lot.

As someone playing around high diamond/low masters in OW, I doubt that someone that just picked up the game would get anywhere close to being able to win at masters level.

You can think that. I have a really good irl friend, who played apex for a few weeks and he got master just for being naturally very mechanically gifted. I would probably not play as well even after 6 months

Apex isn’t OW, lol.