Tbh. I think there is no “unified” majority on WoW.
Its played by so many people with such different views that community is simply shattered into many many small “minority parties” and each having their own interests. Some overlapping with others while others being at direct contrast.
So it feels like that Blizzard is not listening to the “majority” but more like the minority groups which where screaming the loudest at the time. 
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Your not officially the owner of the Ashbringer either. The lore reffers to the owners of those weapons as the “unnamed champion” or the unnamed “class title”. In fact it was order hall NPCs that weilded those wepons when we depowered them on the sword in Sillithus. Liadrin weilded the Ashbringer, Mograne weilded Appocalypse etc.
I think it’s neither. I mean I don’t think they are considering if something is a problem for the majority or minority. I think they just consider if something is a problem and how big of a problem it is. I mean for AP in particular we may never know how many people are in camp A or B, but we know that one of the camps was forced into content they didn’t like and that created unsatisfying gameplay. I mean if I was an owner of company, I wouldn’t want to pick which customers I would like to lose over the other, I would much more like to keep all my customers.
Even if only Asmongold started screaming about, idk he feels forced into pet battles when he clearly wants to do mog farms 24/7, I would act on it if I decided that thats a valid complaint.
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We were the new Highlord of the Silver Hand, wielder of Ashbringer.
We literally took the place of Tirion Fordring as the leader of the entire Paladin order.
And yet we’re “unnamed”. How?
See this edit.
You are the “highlord” for gameplay reasons, cannonically you aren’t.
If I’m not, then I shouldn’t be.
In Legion, we should have been “a hero of our class”, not “THE hero of our class” - because we can’t be that for obvious lore reasons.
If we can’t be, we shouldn’t be. It’s that simple.
Indeed yet some decisions are always difficult to make. Especially if customer A wants X to be removed and customer B wants X to stay. Its a situation where you can’t please both so they had to use some critteria to decide. They can always try going the middle road - nerf X but then they risk losing both A and B customers cause one will think that X is still there while the other thinks that X is such nerfed state is pretty much gone de facto in their eyes.
Yeah and I think they are trying to figure out how to do that. Like I said, with the removal of power gains from OW, Blizzard finally saw that outdoor content is severally lacking, now they are trying to figure out what to do about that. When these types of controversies appear it’s a bit difficult to navigate, or mean I can always be wrong and Blizzard are just clueless.
Why is that such a big deal? It was just some flavor Blizzard added, I mean you are complaining that you are the highlord and then started complaining that you aren’t the highlord. Also were you complaining about being the commander in WoD, when it wasn’t canonically you there either, yes you heard me right you aren’t actually BFFs with Varian or Vol’jin.
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Yes. It was just as stupid.
We should never be anything more than “one of the many adventurers/soldiers/mercenaries who took part in X event”.
Only then can it make sense for us to remain nameless in the history books.
At least you are consistent.
I’m 50/50 on this one. From one point I do prefer the more down to earth stories with low(ish) stakes, but from the other I can support Blizzard in wanting to tell more epic stuff and using us a naretive device. I mean it would have been very lame if random Joe’s ended up defeating the Legion.
But why not do it the WOTLK way? Make us go through all these “epic” adventure with major lore characters.
Don’t make ME kill Xal’atath, let Anduin do it, and let me be by his side as he does.
In regards to story we really need to have some serious sorting through to do. Before we jump into any major storyline, any new epic adventure, another world shaking event. We need to sort out Factions first. And Alliance foremost of the two.
We have like what? Half of the cosmology running rampant in Stormwind right now? Scions of the Holy Light, Void Spawns and Eons old demonic race that was a key foundation in creation of the Burning Legion.
Horde in comparison seems like a Vanilla Ice without sugar. That’s how basic it feels. Also Horde has more fleshed out power structure than the Alliance.
I don’t think there is any danger or invasion that Alliance can’t say “We have it at home.”
Because do you remember the end of Cata, when everyone complained that they had to follow Thrall and watch him kill steal Deathwing. Legions approach didn’t work for you, Catas approach didn’t work for Billy, classics approach didn’t work for Steve. A lot of people were happy with feeling special in Legion because they were the bestest snowflakes their class had to offer even though it’s not cannon it was actually them. It’s just experimenting with different narrative vehicles. Pretty much every game does this, Witcher for example has many branching story paths and dialogue options, there is only one canonical timeline of events despite what you the player chose.
People hated it because of Thrall, not because “a lore character did it” - otherwise they would have a problem with Tirion too.
Thrall in Cataclysm had the infamous Green Jesus problem and I’m afraid with Metzen’s return, he will resume his role as the perfect Mary Sue.
And some people will have a problem when it’s Anduin, or Jaina, or Lorthemar. Everyone hates someone my dude. And again why is it a big deal?
That was SL
Yeah, recall Cataclysm being generally liked up until the last patch, and thralls promotion from Moses to Jesus.
Stop it, the dude has a narrative he is trying to push.
It’s like a new beginning expansion considering that Blizzard will now make us start from it rather than BFA.
But that’s not what you said is it? When you talked about the AP grind, you said “Loved it”. You didn’t specify which expansion AP grind, you just generalized, so you meant all of them.
About you being lonely? I mean, weird flex but ok.
Maybe it isn’t your problem, but you’ve got a terrible attitude on you. As shown by saying “Did I trigger you?”. Honestly, that bait is getting so old, I think we need to get some new material.
As for the other two replies, I was playing the game at the time, so they were semi-serious quick responses.
Do you honestly think the devs would remove/change it if it was doing well? Are you that naive? Are you also so naive to think that the devs only listen to the feedback from streamers?
The so-called ‘silent majority’ give one type of feedback; they leave the game if they don’t like it. And Blizzard sees that, and they see what they’re doing with the game, and they’re “Damm, we gotta change stuff” which is why we’re at here now.
Any time the devs have spoken recently it’s been “We’re always looking to your feedback.” or “This might change depending on the feedback we get.”. If enough people were asking for borrowed power systems like the Artifact weapons, legendaries etc, do you honestly think they’d ignore that feedback?
As I said, during the recent Q&A, Ion was asked about Archaeology. He said a lot, but the basic message was that the majority of the player’s feedback was negative so Archaeology wasn’t going to return in its current form (specifically the triangulation minigame). Now, putting on my logical thinking cap here, if they got feedback over Archaeology, they’d get feedback about the various things we talked about. So if the majority liked the RNG of Titanforging, the borrowed power systems etc, don’t you think they’d include that in the game?
Between you speaking for the ‘silent majority’ and this little bit, I was right about your arrogance.
Seriously, how stuck up can you be