Hmmmm,
What have we here then?
http://www.wowhead.com/news=286049/new-experience-values-for-leveling-hotfix-nerf?webhook/new-experience-values-for-leveling-hotfix-nerf
From going with a car (pre 7.3.5) blizzard took the gas away, making us walk, but we could still have someone help us push (having a friend help boosting in 7.3.5) then the blizzard police arrested the good guy helping us push calling it illegal, it started raining and we now are pushing the car through mud with overtuned mobs, bad dungeon scaling and low quest xp.
C'mon...is so slow now, we just want options for people to lvl slow if they want and faster for other people, just buff heirlooms to give decent XP or other good suggestions that where said here before.
Im calling it, the way for blizz to "fix" this is gonna be "boost now grants heritage armor" and slap it in the patchnotes, there leveling xp fixed.
C'mon...is so slow now, we just want options for people to lvl slow if they want and faster for other people, just buff heirlooms to give decent XP or other good suggestions that where said here before.
Im calling it, the way for blizz to "fix" this is gonna be "boost now grants heritage armor" and slap it in the patchnotes, there leveling xp fixed.
06/08/2018 23:19Posted by HealkicksHmmmm,
What have we here then?
http://www.wowhead.com/news=286049/new-experience-values-for-leveling-hotfix-nerf?webhook/new-experience-values-for-leveling-hotfix-nerf
So they actually buffed some levels even more. Not by much but still.
Looks like 60-80 got nerfed by roughly 14%.
Pretty pathetic 'nerf' right there.
They can just make allied races get reduced xp so as not to "devalue" heeritage armor and let those entitled elitists flex their pixels. Its a win-win scenario!
06/08/2018 23:41Posted by Sky
So they actually buffed some levels even more. Not by much but still.
Looks like 60-80 got nerfed by roughly 14%.
Pretty pathetic 'nerf' right there.
Im more look at a comparison between pre 7.3 and post and the very steep xp increase. Couple that with the removal of all the xp gain boosts such as RAF (300%) and such and keeping in mind the health increase of mobs and it really begins to paint a picture.
Also the bulk of the nerf was between 63 and 74
06/08/2018 23:49Posted by MooggerThey can just make allied races get reduced xp so as not to "devalue" heeritage armor and let those entitled elitists flex their pixels. Its a win-win scenario!
Why would they do that? There will never be any value in that armor, because everyone can get it.
EXP from 1 to 110
7.0.3 - 30,605,800
7.3.5 - 32,300,005
8.0.1 - 30,398,970 (Roughly 6% less than 7.3.5)
8.0.1 EXP is actually pretty close to 7.0.3 but it's so unequally distributed that it still feels slow.
7.0.3 - 30,605,800
7.3.5 - 32,300,005
8.0.1 - 30,398,970 (Roughly 6% less than 7.3.5)
8.0.1 EXP is actually pretty close to 7.0.3 but it's so unequally distributed that it still feels slow.
07/08/2018 00:02Posted by SkyEXP from 1 to 110
7.0.3 - 30,605,800
7.3.5 - 32,300,005
8.0.1 - 30,398,970 (Roughly 6% less than 7.3.5)
8.0.1 EXP is actually pretty close to 7.0.3 but it's so unequally distributed that it still feels slow.
They are very similar indeed. If this is all we had to go on everyone would have thought blizz had done us a massive favour. But looking at these total figures on their own without also looking at comparisons to xp offered by quests, dungeons etc in 7.0.3 vs 8.0.1 as well as obtainable xp from said sources with xp boosts in both versions.
Anyway its late, im off to bed.
06/08/2018 22:24Posted by Bizarro06/08/2018 21:47Posted by Punyelf...
Damn I knew I should have levelled all my 100+ allies :(
Think they fixed it. Just got to Draenor and I get unbuffed around 15k for each treasure. Phu...was a bit scared they nerfed that to.
It's still wonky though... for each level above 100 the XP increases slightly. At 108 I was getting a bit more than 20k XP per chest. That was two days ago.
07/08/2018 00:02Posted by SkyEXP from 1 to 110
7.0.3 - 30,605,800
7.3.5 - 32,300,005
8.0.1 - 30,398,970 (Roughly 6% less than 7.3.5)
8.0.1 EXP is actually pretty close to 7.0.3 but it's so unequally distributed that it still feels slow.
True and dont forget mobs HP buff and the heriloom stat nerf. Everything we hit now takes longer to take down.
I just did a resub, stopped playing after the dreaded 7.3.5.
Played some -60 level alts, and the dungeon pace is good to me.
I love playing (rested) alts, and for me they fixed the lvl 1-70 dungeon (those that I tested) run trough pace.
But the XP reward is just to low, boost it overall with 25% and that would be perfect for me.
I like it that dungeons are again a challenge, that you have to use some abillities at bosses. Good one there!
Better do 10 dungeons at a good pace, some challenges, than blast trough 20 where you dont even need a tank or any tactics. Just boring.
Questing feels ok, maybe a bit too slow. Nerf mob HP a bit, boost the XP reward with 25% and I think that will feel much better too.
I am not a fan of scaling, everything feel very, very, very unrewarding, you never have the feeling that your character is getting stronger... it just all doesnt matter anymore.
I would suggest a small region scaling, like Westfall used to be 10-20, let it scale to 10-30 or so. Just to not outlevel your area without doing the quests.
I hope they make this game more fun and rewarding gain!
*Edit:
I played some legion dungeons, the XP reward was just low, 96 a mob rested. My character is level 102. Is that normal??
Those dungeons are still like pre- 7.3.5., you just blast trough everything, if you loot stuff you cant keep up the pace of the group!
Played some -60 level alts, and the dungeon pace is good to me.
I love playing (rested) alts, and for me they fixed the lvl 1-70 dungeon (those that I tested) run trough pace.
But the XP reward is just to low, boost it overall with 25% and that would be perfect for me.
I like it that dungeons are again a challenge, that you have to use some abillities at bosses. Good one there!
Better do 10 dungeons at a good pace, some challenges, than blast trough 20 where you dont even need a tank or any tactics. Just boring.
Questing feels ok, maybe a bit too slow. Nerf mob HP a bit, boost the XP reward with 25% and I think that will feel much better too.
I am not a fan of scaling, everything feel very, very, very unrewarding, you never have the feeling that your character is getting stronger... it just all doesnt matter anymore.
I would suggest a small region scaling, like Westfall used to be 10-20, let it scale to 10-30 or so. Just to not outlevel your area without doing the quests.
I hope they make this game more fun and rewarding gain!
*Edit:
I played some legion dungeons, the XP reward was just low, 96 a mob rested. My character is level 102. Is that normal??
Those dungeons are still like pre- 7.3.5., you just blast trough everything, if you loot stuff you cant keep up the pace of the group!
*Edit:
Those dungeons are still like pre- 7.3.5., you just blast trough everything, if you loot stuff you cant keep up the pace of the group!
One of the reasons why this pre-patch is completely broken. Legion dungeons are faster and easier than old world dungeons. Legion RAIDS and dungeons are quicker done than old world dungeons.
Do you see the issue here? And Blizzards answer to that was "we buff legion mobs HP". I mean............ I don't know anymore. When we reach 100 pages and there is still not another blue post or ANYTHING then I am slowly losing hope in the WoW department.
07/08/2018 00:02Posted by SkyEXP from 1 to 110
7.0.3 - 30,605,800
7.3.5 - 32,300,005
8.0.1 - 30,398,970 (Roughly 6% less than 7.3.5)
8.0.1 EXP is actually pretty close to 7.0.3 but it's so unequally distributed that it still feels slow.
Before the patch in stonetalon mountain quests was rewarding around 16k exp, after patch its reduced to 10 k exp, if they have reduced exp reward in all quest zones (and they did) its slower to level up even when the exp required is same.
You guys are leading a monologue.
07/08/2018 07:00Posted by Sky07/08/2018 06:15Posted by IdliYou guys are leading a monologue.
So we should just suck it up then?
Blizzard have clearly decided to do something (or nothing) once the expansion releases. Until then - we are all getting ignored.
07/08/2018 07:14Posted by Idli07/08/2018 07:00Posted by Sky...
So we should just suck it up then?
Blizzard have clearly decided to do something (or nothing) once the expansion releases. Until then - we are all getting ignored.
No reason to not bump this thread then, because they'll get another sh!tstorm when Dark Iron Dwarfs and Mag'har Orcs are playable.
07/08/2018 07:00Posted by Sky07/08/2018 06:15Posted by IdliYou guys are leading a monologue.
So we should just suck it up then?
That person wrote a post devoid of an actual argument and you take him serious?
It seems we have to suck it up either way, as it becomes quite apparent with each passing day that the current leveling speed is here to stay: several big threads on both forums regarding this issue and barely a blue response.
But don't worry, post like this still please the cynic in me: a post about how Blizzard stock prices have been in a downward spiral since the pre-patch.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20761996118?page=200#post-3993
Blizz has their own agenda it is clear that slower leveling is better for MAUS and boost revenue they are not going to listen
07/08/2018 07:21Posted by Liarawyn07/08/2018 07:00Posted by Sky...
So we should just suck it up then?
That person wrote a post devoid of an actual argument and you take him serious?
It seems we have to suck it up either way, as it becomes quite apparent with each passing day that the current leveling speed is here to stay: several big threads on both forums regarding this issue and barely a blue response.
But don't worry, post like this still please the cynic in me: a post about how Blizzard stock prices have been in a downward spiral since the pre-patch.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20761996118?page=200#post-3993
it not only wow fault but Cod are not selling as it should also have a major inpack on the stock, you cannot just look at AB stock for blizzard stock but everything A have in like 20 !@#$storms since xmas, that matter alot more that this oone is just the lated of many