Dungeons are much slower than before prepatch, and to top it off they removed the boss xp bonus from dungeons to make it even slower. So much for their word, "We won't nerf the leveling any further", they went ahead and nerfed it to the ground. If they wanted to prevent people getting boosted in dungeons by high levels, they'd have doubled the xp from random dungeon finder, but that isn't the case, takes nearly 2 dungeons per level on 46, I won't even discuss how long queue takes and how some tanks are fresh players who take an absurd amount of time to finish the dungeon.
Leveling is sacred, majority of community are 20+ and are either working, or about to start working in near future, so wasting 80+ hours on leveling each class is not really that attractive.
And for those who want to level slowly, as many people stated, take off your heirlooms, problem solved.
Questing is still probably the fastest option, but who wants to quest for 100th time?
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Experience#Experience_modifiers
Imagine.
Imagine.
I've not read the topic for the past 50 pages but everyone knows the EXP reduction/requirement to level is not going to change anything.
The problem still lies with the fact that it takes roughly 4 times as long to kill a mob. A mob that (for everyones feeling, i dont have statistics) gives the same amount of EXP as it did before. This means it simply takes 4 times longer to do the same quest, while only getting 1/4th of the exp you would get in the same amount of time spend before the patch.
If they increase the exp you get per monster kill and quest, you would have to go through less content to reach level 110, but still spend the same amount of time was it was in 7.3.5. That is what they should be doing.
Doing dungeons takes much, much longer now, while not being rewarded for time spend as it was before the patch. If they dont do a massive (4x? 10x?) exp gain at the end of dungeon, it will never be as fast as it was before the 8.0.1 patch.
The problem still lies with the fact that it takes roughly 4 times as long to kill a mob. A mob that (for everyones feeling, i dont have statistics) gives the same amount of EXP as it did before. This means it simply takes 4 times longer to do the same quest, while only getting 1/4th of the exp you would get in the same amount of time spend before the patch.
If they increase the exp you get per monster kill and quest, you would have to go through less content to reach level 110, but still spend the same amount of time was it was in 7.3.5. That is what they should be doing.
Doing dungeons takes much, much longer now, while not being rewarded for time spend as it was before the patch. If they dont do a massive (4x? 10x?) exp gain at the end of dungeon, it will never be as fast as it was before the 8.0.1 patch.
Just did dunegon my lvl 67 void elf,with loom except teh rings, and 50% ecp buff a dunheon + bonus exp from lfg still only gave about 60-65ish % of a lvl.
It's garbage, everyone I know says it garbage. Try tanking as a warrior with nerfed agro, and stat squish. It's an absolute nightmare, honestly a level 70 dungeons is like a mythic +5 or 6. 3 trash mobs is all right, 4 or 5 and the healer and tanks losing their !@#$.
It's basic old dungeons, there's gonna be 120 levels to do soon. If anything they should of made the 100-110 quicker. I've played 20+ (probity close to 50 in all honesty) mmos in my time, wow is the slowest and dullest I've played by a mile. Sort ya %^-* out blizz, stop thinking $$$$ with boosts. Sack what ever bright spark, sat at the meeting table to boost sales, thought of it.
It's basic old dungeons, there's gonna be 120 levels to do soon. If anything they should of made the 100-110 quicker. I've played 20+ (probity close to 50 in all honesty) mmos in my time, wow is the slowest and dullest I've played by a mile. Sort ya %^-* out blizz, stop thinking $$$$ with boosts. Sack what ever bright spark, sat at the meeting table to boost sales, thought of it.
The changes you have just done, doesn't adress anything.
Sure there is 6% total less experience from 1 - 110.
But the lvling pace is the exact same, it still goes super slow. Questing isn't intriguing, would have been with a more xp rewards by completing a zone for example.
Dungeons have a perfect pace, is fun and challenging, though no xp reward for it.
Give more for mobs much more.
Idk what your big boy dev billionaire team will have with the !@#$show that is waiting in BFA to claim another 10 lvls aswell from scratch with sub races.
So you spare time in working your asses of thinking theory, cause your theories doesn't work out.
Change it Blizzard, change it. That tuning isnt a change when it actually never changed anything than a workaround % number.
That means find a new way for veterans, or give us back xp potions. Why make this so huge when you have the power to fix this, so sad..
Sure there is 6% total less experience from 1 - 110.
But the lvling pace is the exact same, it still goes super slow. Questing isn't intriguing, would have been with a more xp rewards by completing a zone for example.
Dungeons have a perfect pace, is fun and challenging, though no xp reward for it.
Give more for mobs much more.
Idk what your big boy dev billionaire team will have with the !@#$show that is waiting in BFA to claim another 10 lvls aswell from scratch with sub races.
So you spare time in working your asses of thinking theory, cause your theories doesn't work out.
Change it Blizzard, change it. That tuning isnt a change when it actually never changed anything than a workaround % number.
That means find a new way for veterans, or give us back xp potions. Why make this so huge when you have the power to fix this, so sad..
Aaand still no update from Blizzard regarding this issue. They've become so greedy for the boost money as if their lives depended on it(Kinda understandable when their boosts cost more than their entire game's worth of 7 expansions, lol), it's so disgusting how the playerbase is getting treated.
The leveling nerfs are by far the worst thing that has ever happened to WoW. As long as the game stays in this state, we all should stop leveling and don't ever think of buying a boost.
We should not reward Blizzard's disgusting and desperate gimmicks to milk the players.
The leveling nerfs are by far the worst thing that has ever happened to WoW. As long as the game stays in this state, we all should stop leveling and don't ever think of buying a boost.
We should not reward Blizzard's disgusting and desperate gimmicks to milk the players.
07/08/2018 11:51Posted by Velenae(Kinda understandable when their boosts cost more than their entire game's worth of 7 expansions, lol)
You know you can buy BFA multiple times on the same account and use the boosts you get on any linked tot hat account ?
So if an individual was impartial to giving blizz money hand over fist they could buy BFA a further 7 times and use all 7 boosts on their primary account.
Voila a 110 boost cheaper than the 110 boost.
**EDIT**
Unless this too got "Bugged" in the pre patch.
When people are questioning your product, changes youāve made to it, or outright accusing you of completely wrecking it, the very first thing you do before you even start looking at releasing something new like an expansion, is STAND BEHIND YOUR PRODUCT AND SHOW YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
Whereās the live-stream of Ion Hazzikostas levelling a character from 1-110, after 7.3.5, with the face-cam on at all times so you can see if thereās any disappointment or frustration or exasperation at how ridiculously bad the game is? I canāt find this video anywhere, yet I know it must exist because they seem to believe so strongly in this new slow levelling. Also I canāt find the allied races rep grinding one either where Ion unlocks all four 7.3.5 allied races from scratch without ever looking even slightly bored.
Whereās the live-stream of Ion Hazzikostas levelling a character from 1-110, after 7.3.5, with the face-cam on at all times so you can see if thereās any disappointment or frustration or exasperation at how ridiculously bad the game is? I canāt find this video anywhere, yet I know it must exist because they seem to believe so strongly in this new slow levelling. Also I canāt find the allied races rep grinding one either where Ion unlocks all four 7.3.5 allied races from scratch without ever looking even slightly bored.
06/08/2018 21:30Posted by Subasic
Treasures no longer give xp, as far as I've read. So yeah, Draenor sucks even more now.
Think again; you red, I played.
https://imgur.com/a/4ZMOKH0
(rested and non rested XP)
Blizzard,
I beg you : Do something about leveling. It's so !@#$ing long, not interesting, i feel like i'm playing Black Desert Online, bashing again and again.
No fun. Bring back XP as it was before 7.3.5. It was clean, fast, perfect.
I beg you : Do something about leveling. It's so !@#$ing long, not interesting, i feel like i'm playing Black Desert Online, bashing again and again.
No fun. Bring back XP as it was before 7.3.5. It was clean, fast, perfect.
No blizzard response for 10 days, besides the "Up to 14% reduction to levels 40-100". That just won't do, you slowed down leveling by like 100% and then reduce xp required to level by like 8-10% and call it a fix. it's not, it's a big nerf, and calling it a bug and ignoring people is not the way to go.
We're saved, the draenor treasures fix everything. Let me just log my lvl 48 priest and go pick up some tr- Oh wait you can't, its just 91-98 (90-91 is scenario, 98 you clearly leave draenor if you don't have flying, like most people don't)
07/08/2018 13:08Posted by Vorthalasian06/08/2018 21:30Posted by Subasic
Treasures no longer give xp, as far as I've read. So yeah, Draenor sucks even more now.
Think again; you red, I played.
https://imgur.com/a/4ZMOKH0
(rested and non rested XP)
We're saved, the draenor treasures fix everything. Let me just log my lvl 48 priest and go pick up some tr- Oh wait you can't, its just 91-98 (90-91 is scenario, 98 you clearly leave draenor if you don't have flying, like most people don't)
There needs to be a solution or even just a response to say that a solution is being considered. I don't mind if that solution is revamping the early expansions and adding WQs or invasions, like in Legion, to making questing interesting again, or if they add a choice for veterans to speed up their XP gain and give a greater choice on which expansion to level through. I, personally, would like the option to skip TBC and WotLK, as I really can't face questing through those, yet again.
However, everything has gone silent and we don't even have a real fix for the 8.0 stat squish bugs yet, as the previous fixes to HP and power were meant to be temporary while the devs locate the real cause. I understand they are busy with the upcoming BfA launch, but I don't feel that a blue post update on their progress is too much to ask. Just a "We hear you and are working on it." But nothing...
However, everything has gone silent and we don't even have a real fix for the 8.0 stat squish bugs yet, as the previous fixes to HP and power were meant to be temporary while the devs locate the real cause. I understand they are busy with the upcoming BfA launch, but I don't feel that a blue post update on their progress is too much to ask. Just a "We hear you and are working on it." But nothing...
07/08/2018 13:15Posted by Subasic<span class="truncated">...</span>
Think again; you red, I played.
https://imgur.com/a/4ZMOKH0
(rested and non rested XP)
We're saved, the draenor treasures fix everything. Let me just log my lvl 48 priest and go pick up some tr- Oh wait you can't, its just 91-98 (90-91 is scenario, 98 you clearly leave draenor if you don't have flying, like most people don't)
Hehe. First of all most people have flying in Draenor, if they played through WoD. Second- I countered a false information. Third- we are probably on the same side of opinions regarding the quality and pace of leveling process, is just better to use real data rather than rumors and sarcasm ;)
And what for the people without Draenor-flying?
...
We're saved, the draenor treasures fix everything. Let me just log my lvl 48 priest and go pick up some tr- Oh wait you can't, its just 91-98 (90-91 is scenario, 98 you clearly leave draenor if you don't have flying, like most people don't)
Hehe. First of all most people have flying in Draenor, if they played through WoD. Second- I countered a false information. Third- we are probably on the same side of opinions regarding the quality and pace of leveling process, is just better to use real data rather than rumors and sarcasm ;)
If you look 2 pages back, you'll see my claim was already debunked my Bizarro, so yeah, I use sarcasm since you feel that inner need to be right and post something that was already posted. "You red, I played", come on, you were asking for it.
07/08/2018 13:40Posted by TsjohAnd what for the people without Draenor-flying?
Pretty much their problem. It's so effortless and relatively fast to get that there can be no other excuse besides that its ''booooorrring''.
Looks like quite a list though.
http://www.wowhead.com/draenor-pathfinder-guide
http://www.wowhead.com/draenor-pathfinder-guide
07/08/2018 12:41Posted by Healkicks07/08/2018 11:51Posted by Velenae(Kinda understandable when their boosts cost more than their entire game's worth of 7 expansions, lol)
You know you can buy BFA multiple times on the same account and use the boosts you get on any linked tot hat account ?
So if an individual was impartial to giving blizz money hand over fist they could buy BFA a further 7 times and use all 7 boosts on their primary account.
Voila a 110 boost cheaper than the 110 boost.
**EDIT**
Unless this too got "Bugged" in the pre patch.
Sooooooo you're suggesting we pay 59,99~49,99 instead of ā¬60 AS IF that solves the problem? Why the hell do i need to buy the expansion 5 times for 5 boosts? No matter what you do you're giving them your money to level/boost a character because they intentionally made leveling unbearable to make you intentionally buy boosts. No thanks. ā¬40 is still too much for a boost.
Exploration takes couple of hours, while on the way you pick up treasures(ones you can reach with little effort, you only need 100)
Quest lines, from my experience are somewhat short and can also be done really fast if you put your mind into it. Look at Forstfire...Gorgrond, those quest lines are ridiculously short.
''Apexis Dailies''... basically buying scrolls from a vendor in garrison and sweeping through them, especially at 110, which can also be done while youre doing exploration/treasure/story lines
And the reputations take couple weeks of like 2-3 daily qs.
It's practically effortless if youre a lvl 110. 90% can be done in mere hours, then you just visit Tanaan every day for 2-3 qs and that's it. But people will always find excuses, and even use ''no draenor flying'' as an excuse in arguments.
Quest lines, from my experience are somewhat short and can also be done really fast if you put your mind into it. Look at Forstfire...Gorgrond, those quest lines are ridiculously short.
''Apexis Dailies''... basically buying scrolls from a vendor in garrison and sweeping through them, especially at 110, which can also be done while youre doing exploration/treasure/story lines
And the reputations take couple weeks of like 2-3 daily qs.
It's practically effortless if youre a lvl 110. 90% can be done in mere hours, then you just visit Tanaan every day for 2-3 qs and that's it. But people will always find excuses, and even use ''no draenor flying'' as an excuse in arguments.