You could start reading more posts around and take note of the widespread unhappiness. Also imagine how much more popular M+ would be were it open for people on an equal level, in a ladder system. Not in a beggar/toxic system.
You are literally the only one saying these communities are toxic.
And the system is as open as it can be. Everyone has a key, everyone can invite 4 other people.
Yeah. Sure.
Next.
Indeed. Next. Your lies are getting a too big of a lauch on my face. The amount of nonsense getting spouted is getting on trolling levels. I go report you for calling my communities toxic from now on. We do not need your offending behaviour. Please do NOT join anymore.
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Should I pop online and demonstrate what inviting 4 randoms lead to?
Superior argument. Provides so much to the topic and solve all the problems.
Indeed. You are excluded from now on.
From what? Mythics? Already was so.
Happy to have less toxic people on M+. Goodbye.
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Equal levels = equal effort. Or your idea of “equality” means = Person A kills mythic end boss get reward ilevel 500 weapon and person B who logged in got a 500 ilevel weapon because well…he loged in? But hey. both are now “equal” because both have the same reward right?
Equality means that we both can achieve a certain level, reward, milestone and etc with skill alone. Nobody gets a “free boost or help”. At least that’s how I understand equality.
If a player has killed stronger bosses than me, reached a higher m+ ranking or pvp ranking than me and got better rewards for it then he fully deserves cause he put more effort than me.
Can’t really answer an imagined problem cause the system is not toxic, only people who make a problem about it. A system is like a tool to get a job done. Is a knife a dangerous cold weapon which should be removed from every household or a valuable kitchen tool?
It is a ladder and your key is the ladders step which you use to climb it.
He is absolutely blind to this argument. Havent heard a single response to it. He seems to be stuck in some “evil toxic pug scene” and every alternative gets shut down or plain ignored.
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Not a ladder at all. Closed to vast majority of potential players. Who are not generally here, and you are doing your best to take advantage of that.
You don’t want an open system. Period. Or feel free to prove otherwise.
And please say I don’t have to tell you how a ladder works where everyone should be at equal footing. Which include those who do not speak elitist.
It is open to people on an equal level, there are just a large number of people who dont want to put in the effort to learn it.
Everyone can get a key, put a group together and go do a Mythic + dungeon and learn what and what not to do.
Large number of people who have absolutely no interest in learning to speak elitist just to do some dungeons, yes.
We have language barriers, social norms and a distain from begging/bugging other people to do dungeon and would very much like to be at an equal footing content and powerwise.
If you have no interest in doing it, why are you moaning that you cant do it?
The real thing is, his response is this when i said it;
Which means his elitism is showing. He is excluding everyone 
He is creating this problem for himself.
Thought that was clear in last post. Obviously interested in doing the dungeon. Just not go through a social convention to do so.
Who is ignoring the vast majority of potential players and a heap of complaints on a system riddled with holes and toxic traits?
Nothing will be served to you on a silver plater. Do you think I havent gotten declined on m+s before? if you got zero m+/rio score as a dps, you are competing with 50 other dps for 1 spot. No matter how “benevolent” the key holder can be, he can’t take all 50.
So I started with my own key and slowly leveled it up to a +10…and I still using my own keys. Quite fun.
And we are on equal footing. We all start from zero. Just you and me and nobody has any extra help or bonuses. There is a wall or an obstacle on our way and this is where our approaches differ.
Me and Tsjoh saw the wall and we slowly started to climb over it. Sometimes even falling back but getting back up and doing again.
You on the other hand just stand there and scream at me, Blizzard, evil elistists, God…whatever for putting the wall there and refusing to even try to climb it like the rest.
Equal footing means we start from the exact same spot with same tool and abilities. Nobody has any bonuses or handicaps.
You seem to have the idea of “equality” : if I get pretty shinny from hard work then you should get it too because … eQuaLity. And when I respond: “I worked for my shinny, you should work for it too” then I am the big bad elitist promoting exclusivity.
What social convention? Learning to interupt mobs or where to stand?
You are 
Big elitist toxic player who excludes the whole playerbase.
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Forming groups. You know. It takes a lot more than LFM/LFG which is excluding A LOT of players.
Great contribution. Well done! /clap
Yeah. Everyone around him is too “toxic and elitist”. Kinda reverse elitism I think? 
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