not if the valor upgrades will require M+ score instead of key level. Next
Also untimed, if capped at +15 would not allow you to upgrade above ~402 or whatever it is even currently
Hardcore isnt about percentile what are you on?
My guild benches no people unless we are full in raid, and even then we try to give people what they do want. My guild’s very casual. I dont think you’re casual at all, especially if you’re affraid of being benched.
Yes, and? Your point in this is that if a few guilds do this, every guild did this? :S Like for real, this is etxactly ‘hardcore’ no matter how ‘good’ you are or not. There where plenty of casual guilds back in the day that didnt bench people or kick people from the guilds.
I am not. Basing on percentile to say you’re hardcore or not is weird. It is not what hardcore means. Hardcore means you’re serious about raiding and progressive. There’s no such thing as needing +9 keys to prevent getting benched from a normall progressive guild.
true, but as people found in S4 SL. u dont actually need to do +20s across the board to get the rating required to actually max out the level gear from valor upgrades.
That mean nothing.
Hardcore mean your doing what it takes with the tools you are given without going out of your way, like elitist manners, watching guides and all that crap.
Or if you really want it’s the mortal mode, which wow don’t have.
actually no it really does not.
Hardcore would be demanding to finish every boss with a 99 percentile Log.
Simply wanting to clear content doesnt make u a hardcore player,
Hardcore Litterally means ur trying to Minmax, ur Playing Meta Choices and ur ensuring u are Playing at ur maximum… Casually completing content over a Season with no goal to do it super fast. or Minmax anything isnt hardcore.
No, Thats hardcore minmaxing…
You dont have to use third party tools to be hardcore… lmao
Who learned you that?
ur not hardcore if u dont Minmax.
WTF A
person who devotes a large portion of their time towards gaming and gaming variations. A might often attempt to [optimize] their playing style, often by the use of gaming gear or mods/addons; this practice is often common for casual gamers, but to some lesser extent.
“A casual gamer is someone who schedules the game around their life, while a hardcore gamer schedules their life around the game.” -TotalBiscuit (a.k.a TotalHalibut; The [Cynical]
Jim plays World of Warcraft and devotes the majority of his time to his [raiding]guild, including altering his real life schedule to suit his [guild’s] needs. Hence, he is, to some extent,
Definition
my god, the actual definition of being Casual is lost to the majority. a Casual Raider does exist beleive it or not… its a Entire defintiive word in the genre.
There you go? What is your guild not doing hardcore if you’re trying to not get benched then your trying to reach for something…
Brah go apply to a Serious guild without minmaxing. Please try.
go Apply to a Guild with a Vers/crit Stacked Evoker with a Customized build that u made.
? Hardcore can also mean time invested ya know?
I seen plenty of guilds say x date we do heroic with core group you want in prove yourself via normall first = dedicating time for that = hardcore cause you dont wanna get benched. Yet you’re saying you are casual when infact you are not.
Casual just a group of people schedule a raid, dont bench people, invite people for normall.
You’re working for something. Casuals aint. They’re more then happy to try and clear normall.
Yes it can. but i’d also say if their trying to be hardcore, without optimisation. their just Doing it badly… and wasting their time for nothing.
no hardcore player will take u seriously if u arent optimised.
LOL
No elitist you mean.
no.
its not elitism. Im rly confused by ur definition of this word, if the content itself DEMANDS it… its not elitist if u phtysically CANT do the content theres nothing ANYONE can do to change that.
iof u took 20 people, who had home brewed builds. Non-optimal stats. Below the ilevel needed on Subpar Classes. u would NOT be able to take down Myhic raids.
How is this relevant?
You go half naked and do your best, you even complete the task. HARDCORE.
You optimise, read guides, minmax and all, and go complete the task. ELITIST.
Not that difficult.
because. if ur not optimised, u cant do the content lmao. thats the point.
mythic raiding is tailored to require it. being elitist would be demanding u reroll for the raid, Asking u optimise isnt being elitist.
I seen plenty of guilds say x date we do heroic with core group you want in prove yourself via normall first = dedicating time for that = hardcore cause you dont wanna get benched. Yet you’re saying you are casual when infact you are not.
Casual just a group of people schedule a raid, dont bench people, invite people for normall and most people are welcome unless theyr obviously to undergeared or so but you’re litterally running mythics to not get benched…
Csuals dont. They’re more then happy to try and clear normall on a scheduled raid which is perfectly fine. My guild does this. We dont go ‘kicking’ people like your guild may do unless your plain and simply trolling, and constantly pulling for no reason. This is just grieving at the point.
It is. Who are you to tell what content I can clear?
Yeah. no.
Guilds that bench no one, are the guilds that end up on preachs drama time stories and inevitably disbanded. no ones goiong to sit through 600 Wipes on Normal Mode Raiding because u have half a Raid who cant make it through the first 60 seconds of a Fight.
Im not.
but who are u to demand i play with you?
None, but your definitely not hardcore with that attitude.