Why do we exchange a hundred posts for naught? You go on and on about the mythic system, completely ignoring everything that’s being said just because you don’t experience it so.
When it’s not even about that. It’s about opening it up. Which would affect you how? Are you able to relate to a scenario that you don’t personally experience?
Because its a self-inflicted problem. You created a problem which mostly sits in your head: The thought that evil elitists are “blocking” you from creating your own group of m+ run. You havent given a single argumented reason you cant make your own group in m+ if you dont want to apply to already made groups
Its already open. But your mental block making you believe its closed. Blizzard can’t open that.
It’s a game and community problem and you know that very well.
Answer the basic question already. What is your problem with opening up the system for all the groups you also were clearly aware of, which don’t find the system attractive because it don’t appear open to them. At all.
If you don’t want to relate to it that’s your problem and you are only trolling.
The game can’t bend and twist to suit every person needs and whims. Everything has to be done via compromise. Classic, there were no grouping tools at all, wotlk introduced LFG, cata LFR. You already have enough automated systems as it is. At point Blizzard needs to make a foot down and say that they have come as far as I can but its time for players to come forward as well. Otherwise the demands will never stop.
Blizzard caves into your m+ request. Ok…whats next? Quable mythic raiding because the evil mythic raiders are “keeping exclusive”?
And even the introduction of LFM I can somewhat understand. LFM was done to alleviate the issue with low pop realms becoming isolated. Its something the players could not control hence blizzard had to step in.
Your issue is based on some pathological fear of socialization. Something which is under your control which you can(if you want to) control.
And there is a limit where a community can help.If somebody wants to be an olympic swimmer but has severe hydrophobia like you who want to do m+ but has severe social phobia. Then the person has to solve its inner
problems. Not expect the rest of us to figure out how to make the water “less wet”.
If you refuse to even try to address your own problem yourself then its no better than any forum trolling…
how do u plan to exactly Open up the system?
Automation and nerfing to avoid any form of socialization.
Well, then you’d need to delete its path as a gear grind, ansd Refer back to Heroic / mythic raiding for get gear.
thats just basically deleting M+ and having dungeons stop at Mythic rewards.
majority of people quitting few months into first tier is obviously “people problem”, nothing to do with quality of the game, content or game designs that fail to retain them.
All of them are just wrong, BFA was great, SL was great, it was people who had personal problems.
None asking for that.
That’s exactly what is being proposed.
No comparable with classic where a simple /w inv suffice
Not at all.
Why not? None forcing you to que up for it.
Eh. No, that was why XRZ was implemented.
A lot of things you don’t want to understand and constantly try to dilute and divert.
None asking the community to help. Not even change, we wish though.
Then they pursue that path. Swimming is not a social convention. And here I’m being kind calling it social when in fact it is actually anti-social. Forming a group is not social, communicate with the group formed is.
You really projecting your own take on it all onto others.
All in all. Quite extreme level of trolling, but I think the problem lie elsewhere. You should follow many of your own suggestions in regard to mental help where you cannot even acknowledge other people have problems beyond your twisted notion that completely contradict with what they say.
Depends on why they’re quitting
thje majority are quitting because Most players ONLY engage with the games story, no changes to raids or M+ will end that problem. proven by the fact FFXIV Shares the exact same problem.
And you asked every single person who left and everyone 100% unanimously said that it was due to m+ not being quable?
u must reliese.
to become Queuable, the content mechanically needs Reducing Massively…
which in turn would require the Gear progression it Offers to be Deleted yes?
i mean we could go down the path, of opening M+ Up. make it easy, Delete its gear progression, Mythic ilevel being the highest achievable ilevel reward.
then We have to farm Raids to partake in M+ as a Optional content
No. It would be a simple ladder system. You never really asked if you think a +1 need, or should need a specific class combo.
You can still do higher, effort required remains the same. In fact it would be harder with randoms. You can still do it with friends and guild. Everyone happy. Problem?
No no.
To be Of same standard of loot as Mythic raiding. its requirements also need to be Within rough lines too.
you cant have both.
because if u mechanically delete the Difficulty. it obviously wont be. we already do it with randoms from PuGging. its the most popular way of engagin with the content.
it changes nothing in those regards AT ALL.
it requires a class comp due to its complexity. the harder content is, the more minmax its going to require you to be.
Take heroic and mythic raiding for example. Class comp requirements in mythic are far harsher then heroic, even tho the encounters are identical.
Im afraid,the reason why M+ has been buffed in difficulty each expansion is to get it closer to mythic, if we advocate for the opposite direction. im afraid its rewards need toning in turn
game director officially said that’s the model FF14 is designed around and encouraged ppl to take a break and come back for next chapter. It works, because people pay for each major content update.
Wow is designed around large paid expansions and free major content updates, so retaining players is crucial - or they might try to sell us 10.1/10.2 etc.
i will do it once you ask every single person if they like current M+
you can start here
Yeah. because he knows most people engage with the game for its story. so theres No point bleeding too much money into its minorities.
If you refuse to accept that your social phobia is not the norm then its your problem not mine.
Also
Problems which appropriate solutions have been offered. If a person would run to be in psychosis screaming that “aliens are coming to abduct her”, should I also just believe her and run with her to the cellar as well…or get her medical help which she needs?
Only problem is that you refuse any form of real help and actually thinking I am trolling because I don’t see an open system as “closed” as you… aka. dont believe you that the “aliens are coming” ?
What are you talking about? Difficulty finding a group? More of a hazzle than difficulty.
You are also unable to answer the question. Where is the problem if little Billy were able to que up for +1 and, sure. Maybe wipe like crazy. You think he would sign up again?
Or is it the boosts that are actually the problem where people would be eligible to que way beyond ther actual level? Woah, welcome to wow.
Your made the claim first so you need to prove it, otherwise people can leave for many reasons and not just m+ alone.
that would work if WoW actually put far more effort into story, potential and the universe is there and established… But we kinda already know how that would end…WoW story was already lagging behind other Warcraft media, but oh my the Shadowlands story…yea, it would not ever work for WoW to focus on MSQ