M+ as "race against time" is bad concept - Ideas of Non-Timed M+ mode

Uh wut. I would come to play football. Not to bend the knee.

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You missed the point. Colour me surprised.

Kurt liked your post. You’re like peas in a pod.

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How about you produce ONE argument that speaks well of keeping the system locked.

And answer why are you so afraid of a ladder system, that is open for EVERYONE to participate in.

Where you know very well the average wouldn’t climb much higher than +10 to +15. So WHERE is the problem when you can still be at +25 and feel good bout that.

You don’t want competition and challenge, it show.

What is this even? I don’t care about competition. Theres tens of thousands of people that are far better than me and I know it.

Is that the best justification you can some up with? Some weak sauce argument that I’m against your pathetic half articulated idea because “I’m scared”?

:man_facepalming:

Your not giving any reason so just have to assume from the standard attitude shown from the plebs who never have any valid argument and are only capable of going personal.

Going personal is exactly what you did. It’s funny how people like you are so inarticulate that you do what you accuse others of and then never even get the irony.

Stomp your feet and ball your fists in impotent rage. Your terrible ideas are never ever making it into the game.

G’night.

Come back when you have an argument for why you want to keep players out of the game.

So you don’t have an argument why this “vast” player base doesn’t want to play with each other?
You want Blizzard to create a button to throw randoms together, who don’t talk but yet somehow successfully grind high keys? Very interesting concept.

It’s not locked, that’s the point. You pretend it is because you want somehow grind high keys without communication, effort or any requirements whatsoever. That’s beyond stupid.

Right. Those who want to compete can’t… because… uhm? They don’t want to talk to each other? Great start for the team right there.

Said I don’t have a list. I don’t work for you and I’m not paid by blizz. Neither am I willing to sacrifice my sanity remembering everything that’s wrong with the game, as good as I can. It’s very hard though, especially on core problems like mythics.
Why should I have to talk to X amount of strangers before doing a dungeon? Is this a game or a social convention?

How about these reports that you are kicked from mythic if you speak? Seriously. WHERE are the arguments to uphold this ludicrous system???

It is locked. How many players don’t participate in this system, and would participate if it was not. Do you think? Small amount?

Maybe not locked to you. Can you accept that is is for a lot of other players? Or are you just going to be ignorant toward the plummeting playerbase where mythics is a major factor?

For WHAT reason??

I can answer for you, and have already done that. Read the thread.

First we meet. Then we talk.

yes. because there is garbage random system. and you can play more then 10 games and get ZERO drops…
even if you are very good player your damage/heal will be low and you get zero groups after a while…

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Trying to cover you here, but this is not a war I can win alone. Although it is already won, they don’t have a single argument.

I can make an argument for them: Because I want to feel special and that’s much easier if half the potential playerbase is excluded.

Open. The. Game.

So you basically have no idea what’s wrong but you know there is a lot of stuff wrong? Ok…
But why exactly do you keep claiming M+ is excluding (without even knowing how) the “vast” player base (again, without knowing this since you literally have no numbers) for no reason?

It’s not the system kicking you, it’s the players. Do you really do not understand the difference? Also, play with equal minded players, what exactly is holding you back? Why would equal minded people kick you? Makes no sense whatsoever. You obviously refuse to play with equal minded players and complain about non-sense.

Well… where is your data? It’s not locked, it’s a simple fact. You couldn’t name a single issue that’s caused by the system and not the player. As long as an issue is caused by a player, it’s avoidable by playing with EQUAL MINDED players. It’s not hard, no? Especially since YOU claim there many of them. Hm?

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there should be an option before you enter to have a choice between a timed and no time limit run in that case this whole debate would be over and you could have a lower drop rate in the none timed mithyc+ but anyway give ppl a choice.

Still waiting for the arguments to keep it locked. I made one for you, so if you can’t come up with something better maybe stop trolling.

I can’t make an argument about something that does not exist…

You didn’t make a single argument that’s caused by the system. You made an “argument” that’s caused by the players. You really fail to see the difference?

The system enable the players and you cannot tell the difference.

Still nowhere near the point though.

Yes, people can kick each other. This will remain. You want to force people into a party without them being able to decide if someone has to stay or not after an invite? How stupid is this? People will just leave the group and make a new one, instead of kicking the guy. What is this non-sense?

They have the choice. Ignore the timer, finish the dungeon, get the loot. Once they are good enough, they beat the timer anyway.

Why would you join a +1 if you should be at +15? You want to specifically select what people to play with? THAT is why we have guilds and friends. Not why we have dungeons.

What? If you should be in a +15, you will be there, once you got there. In PvP you also don’t start at 3k rating just because you believe you are supposed to be there… in no game is that the case… you work your way up there…

What? I am not allowed to choose who I want to do a dungeon with? Dafuq is this logic?..

So can you make an actual argument how the system is excluding players and not the players? Seems like you can’t…

What is this drivel. You think I’m trying to take away your friends?

Though it is very likely your friends will find it more challenging and FUN to play with randoms than some steamrolled threadmill full of toxics, if they had a chance at the right level of content.

Do check if your friends are there for epics or to be with you before you kick them for questioning something.

It is you who need to make at least one argument for why you want to keep the system exclusive, but you have already ignored about 100 comments in this thread, probably tens o thousands in others. And you are prepared to keep ignoring for months to come as you have proven.

You still have the chance to make an actual argument.