Matchmaking is the only real fix for the M+ problem

Hehe. I usually dont encourage “building a bridge where there is no river” simply to I told you so. Its a waste of resources.
But in this case might make an exception. After a bad key run yourself, would be encouraging to spectate some rando 5s in their soloQ. To remind yourself that “there could be worse”. :rofl:

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man all those top end guilds selling RMT boosts for m+ are gonna be sending me death threats

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SoloQ for m+ come @ me.

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That is one of the most stupid suggestions. Role imbalance has always been in the game since day 1. And it is NOT a problem.

When one chooses to play dps, he chooses long queue. That is his personal choice and consequence. There is no problem with that, and it doesn’t need to be solved.

Matchmaking is not to solve role imbalance. It only gives players another way to form a group.

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With all this yida yada yoda yuda blah blah aside:

OP, what about the technical aspect of a machmaking system? Put any thoughts into that regarding M+? No? Thought so.
What metrics are you gonna feed the system with? DPS, HPS, specs, iLvl, successfull keys?
Just boosting alone will negatively impact any matchmaking system leading to players depleting their keys due to botched up groups and get pushed down in the matchmaker. :dracthyr_shrug:

Role balance is the main issue and catalyst for some of these “we want instaQ” threads. You think some people would lose common sense so much and demand instaQ at all costs(no matter how high) if pugging as solo dps took 5-10 mins?

Whats the point of “inventing new ways to fight a forest fire” if nobody wants to even take a look at that leaky oil pipeline with live wires dangling around which caused and is still causing the forest fire?

the more this thread and the other one gets bumped up , the more we talk about it

the more likely they see it
so feel free to argue,

im all for m+ SoloQ
great addition to the game.

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I used to be in the no to m+ queue crowd. Its been a request since BFA at least. But im so sick of this topic coming up every week, so yeah, let them have it. But with certain rules.

  1. It cannot be the only way to do m+ (ppl have suggested this to force tank/healer into the queues)
  2. No extra rewards/incentives to make it more attractive.
  3. Puts everyone’s key on the line so you cant just brick others keys, but if its upgraded all also gets an upgrade.
  4. No balancing around it being queued content, keep the difficulty as is.
  5. No «group has to have these things (BL, CR and so on)
  6. Punishment for leavers (so we can have that repeat topic also dealt with).

Now let them have at it. Grouped with people of the same rating +/- 100 score.

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i think the average queue time for a high m+ key would be probably something like 30-45 minutes.

would that fix anything for you ?

Are you new here? Its been a weekly recurring topic since BFA at least :sweat_smile:

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ill be honest i normally only linger in PvP forums, but decided i wanted 3k rating in m+ this season, and im lingering at 2700 currently

figured id give my opinion to improve the LFG system

SoloQ m+ sounds like a good option

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I would be up to that but then Blizzard also needs to pretty much

swear this in front of a priest or judge or whatever.
History teaches us multiple times that “if its quable, then it must be kill able by a drunk monkey”. Take a look at previous early Cata HC dungeons, some LFR bosses(Nzoth anyone?).
And people will scream Blizzards head off that “i waited in queue for 2 hours, got set up with the worst combo ever and boss didnt die when we farted in his direction”…and Blizzard caves into their “request” to nerf it to the ground so as to silence that PR storm.

Anyone who wants to claim that “well it wont happen THIS TIME” are either delusional or they really need to come with concrete hard evidence that Blizz wont do what Blizz has always done before.

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I was doing that last week on my VDH in the current group finder. It took me 5 or 6 attempts to not time Priory +5.

It was amazing.

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And thats a valid concern, cause yes, everything you can queue in pve is easy content. But since u’ll be matched with people of same score, they will just be there doing m+ 2 and not really progress. Even if they would nerf the content, since its scaling indefinitely, it will reach a point where the drunk monkeys wont be able to progress.

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so much hate and no1 is willing to at least test it on a PTR or have closed alpha testing

hating on something without first trying it. such an ugly trait

It gives players another way to form a group. So it will be a great tool for solo players, new players, casual players that doesn’t have fixed group or community.

Therefore, it will attract more people ( who doesn’t like the hassle to host or apply for groups) to join M+ and enlarge the participation number and community.

It is also much more friendly to players newly stepping into M+, especially newbie tanks and healers, who were afraid to pug before.

But of course, there are lot of narrow minded people like you, who only thinks about personal rio, rate, etc. and never think about the positive affect on the community.

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Not everyone is hating. Im saying lets give it a try. Maybe it will work. Maybe it wont. At least we’ll get some new forum topics.

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they are trying to derail it because they sell Boosts for RMT most likely .
i of course have no proof.

but i wonder whats the odds to the extent they would go to defend their pockets

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I havent checked everyone in here, but dont think most of us fall into the good enough to boost ppl category :joy:

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i could name a few in the pvp forums for you, but naming and shaming is a sin

I am going to ask a different question.
Since when WoW is world of m+ craft? What with this drive to get everyone into m+ at all costs?
We dont have campaigns to get people to play PvP en-mase or raid(above LFR) en-masse. People who actually want to do it, do it.
But m+ its suddenly a different story and every grandma and her puppy must do m+?