Ah I see. So that SoloQ people will have a separate action buttons for hero, combat, ress? Anything else? Perhaps “kill boss quicker debuff applier”?
You said it yourself. SoloQ wont affect premades. With this you are giving them an unfair advantage over premades.
Same rule for all.
Still you are starting to wake up back to reality fact that part of an m+ success is decided before the key is even inserted = group comp, available utilities not just the number you do on the dps metter.
Now waiting for the key answer. Which unlucky sap of the 5 randos will sacrifice their key and how it will be decided?
If you get a 3 Feral group, you will do great Good damage, healing, defensives and CC. Also, those who still play Feral mostly have at least some idea what to do
The system is also amazing if you list your key. If there is a tank or healer trying to snipe that key, they sign up, you take them, you’ve got a key going in a minute or less.
I snipe keys with a lone DPS and it’s unholy how fast it fills. My own key also fills at unholy speed. Especially if a healer is sniping for the key I have and I take them.
Also the amount of “Tanks and healers will use solo queue!” said by people who don’t play tank or healer to people who do play tank or healer is melting my brain.
How often you “win” absolutely matters. If you log in an afternoon to play some dungeons and you spend 3h of your gameplay wiping… well… It gets frustrating really fast. Especially if you want a reward, like end-of dungeon loot or vault.
And ESPECIALLY if you follow OPs suggestions of an MMR where you can loose rating by wiping.
The worst is that this already happened in soloQ arena. Because healers could tie, they won no rating. So you could log in. Play 10 matches (with ZERO wait times for healers… DDs still had to wait 40 minutes)… and win ZERO rating. ZERO rewards.
This happened because you had a 100% chance of ALWAYS playing with a bad player. A player that always died, regardless of how gigachad at healing you were.
Therefore. ZERO reawards. ZERO incentives. ZERO healers.
DDs went from 20 min… to 2h waiting in SoloQ…
And you are telling me that wiping all day in a dungeon… somehow will be MORE enticing for healers and tanks?
Let me remind you that right now, as a healer I am a special snowflake. Not only are my wait times literally measured in SECONDS… On top of that, I get to choose my gigachad DDs that will carry me in ALL dungeons such that I can WIN 100% of the dungeons I play.
And you are telling me that somehow… going from winning 100% of the time to loosing 100% of the time will incentivize MORE healers?
Its a COMPETITIVE game mode. Not your story mode or quest where Blizzard needs to be sure that even drunk monkey using the keyboard with their behinds can do it.
Maybe for your shallow minded “soloQ now, insta invite = WIN! DOnt care about the rest” is difficult to comprehend but part of the m+ challenge lies in actually setting up the group comp for victory.
So if you want your soloQ to work. Prove how it will co-exist with premades WITHOUT giving it unfair advantages or overhauling the entire m+ to accommodate it.
You said yourself: M+ soloQ wont affect premades. Ok. Now you want to change m+ to accommodate soloq m+. Sry thats affecting premades as well. Now what?
Exactly, they should never have it replace other modes like they did for pvp, and even to some degree people should realise that in wow the hardest end game content is something requiring coordination with team, so if people want push the highest keys or raid tiers in the game then they likely need join some community or network for it.
You can still do it, not body force you to use solo queue.
Your endless QQ is absolutely incomprehensible when it doesn’t even affect your play.
So you just don’t want others to have another option to form M+ group.
I always thought MMOs and RPGs in general attracted people who like the long grind. Ones who don’t just want to be handed their victory quickly.
It’s like how marathon runners don’t just become 100m sprinters so they can be done with the race in a few seconds. They like almost 43km of punishment.
By splitting the community in half you make the scene worse for both sides because of lack of players.
It happend in SoloQ Arenas before. It was an “option”. But frustration, lack of rewards, lack of players disincentivized gameplay on both SoloQ and LFG arenas. Killing the PvP scene.
Multiple people gave you multiple options to fix that issue. You chose not to take ANY of those options (including rerolling healer by the way)… therefore…
A YOU problem. 100%.
What does this have to do with anything? So you are suggesting of kicking players out untill you find the gigachad ones? Is that what you are suggesting?
You have multiple options RIGHT NOW. I cant take you seriously if you dont even try them.
You lot are always complaining of “elitists” only get into groups. Those gigachad DDs with 3000 rating did not get their rating by art of magic or boosting or by being super good.
They got it because they followed the suggestions countless other people have already told YOU. And YOU refuse to follow.
But lazyness and selfentitlement >>>> reason and responsability. You need “daddy blizzard” to give you hand-outs and force strangers to play with you.
And for the record… this is the CURRENT situation with “gigachad DDs” :
And now… you want blizzard to force me to play with YOU… that has crummy rating? Sorry but NO thanks… I prefer to play Darktide instead.
Didnt knew WoW was a mobile game. Next you will tell me that BBQ ribs are not ice cream?
When I play mobile game, I expect mobile game behavior and “ruleset”. Same as when I eat strawberry icre cream I kinda expect it to taste it as…strawberry ice cream?
Cant argument anything against so its the old fashionable “u iz Blizzard white knight” or in your case, in cahoots with RMT.
Look Mac. Nobody is against changes even I am not against changes. But there is a difference when somebody proposes a change which is carefully thought out and possible problems addressed (and even then there can be unforeseen problems),
and just impulse changes without giving a about possible consequences.
You are screaming that we should drive our car off the clift and when some people are saying that you could kill yourself like that, you just go “shut up! Dont be afraid of change! JUST DO IT!”.
I dont think mythic + is something that should be pugged today. You need to put some effort finding someone on your own standards. Pugging is at own risk.
Just let them have their queue Lynlia, we can share the popcorn and watch the trainwreck
Also regarding who’s key gets bricked/put on the line. Id say all 5 of them. Both ways. And it will be random who’s key is used so they cant target dungeons
Good damage, healing, defensives and CC. Also, those who still play Feral mostly have at least some idea what to do 
about possible consequences.
