+15 is ridiculously easy. I’m not sure what you’re on about. Maybe if you only play with pugs.
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Well it has more to do with mythic+ being more acessible and esyser to organite than Mythic+ so.
I mean no, not at all. Can get a full heroic pug going within 20 mins generally at the start of a tier. probably the same time it takes to wade through all those keys in group finder
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No you cant.
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What? If you create a group in LFG first week for heroic, you get the amount of sign ups for at least 3 full raid groups.
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Yes you do filling raid with bunch of players is easy. Filling raid with competent players what know what they doing and leading raid is completly different story.
so easy that according to wowprogress, the amount of people obtaining the keystone master in s1 is less than 2%.
It’s easy when you overgear the content by a lot and you have stuff like corruptions etc. On the first patch of a new xpac, it’s not.
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Everyone is on progress. It is not that hard to lead. Especially that first week everyone expects wipes too. So not the 1 wipe group disband.
i am really wondering how the scaling will be in SL. In BFA s1-s3 the max loot was on +10. I got myself in s1 to +14 (timed). But it is possible a +15 in SL will be on par with +10 in Bfa (s1 comparisments).
Who r u to say what gear should be given out for the content people do? So if people aren’t doing the content u r doing they should be getting lower gear? I have a child and a job. I get on 2 days a week for 2 hours to m+ with friends. That 4 a week if I’m lucky. With a 1 in 5 chance of loot per run means there is a high chance that I will only get one dungeon drop every 2 weeks. Tell me how fun that is for any player in my situation. It’s bloody selfish to think u deserve more cause u have more time to play. Some day u will be in my shoes with the with the same amount of responsibility and u will be upset over a change like this because then u will be affected
You didnt even finished a +14 in bfa s1 so how you think +15 will be redicolous easy?
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No idea. In the beta the key vendor got removed so it’s not possibile to check, and data before that was skewed because of the scaling gear abuse, so hard to tell right now.
But i agree, should be tuned similarly to S4 considering how the ilvl loot scales.
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Nice one. Except you forgot to mention that in BfA season 1, +10 was the limit for weekly cache rewards. I don’t like mythic+, why would I ever do anything above that?
And to be clear: I don’t think the difficulty gap between heroic raids and m+15 is big. I think they’re pretty much same in terms of difficulty. But m+ is farmable: heroic raids are not. Thus, lower ilvl drops make sense.
I was really annoyed at first. Love spamming keys on multiple charas for gear throughout an expansion. But I guess it’s more about the end of week loot, and way more alt friendly to gear up. I mean to have 4 options in ya box now it’s like 3 hours a week when raids on farm, and 1 key.
Still gonna spam keys on alts and inbetween raids regardless. And gonna have more options in weekly chest.
people still moaning about ilvl when secondary stats have far outweight it.
3ilvls is nothing and you will still be able to spam it for gear to take to raids.
this only slows down slightly the world race from trading raid items
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Why do you want top gear when you have a busy real life? Dont you understand how mmo works?
You play more than me? You win me.
If you already have the mentality it is not, but actually few have it. Most players are simply not comfortable or willing to take things into their own hands and lead a group.
The ilvl isn’t the problem for me. It’s the low drop chance that is. It’s horrible when nothing drops in mythic plus and now it’s less. It’s taking away incentive to run them.
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Some people don’t want to raid?
So they’re hecking over the lower part of the player base for the top 0.1% that will find a way to circumvent the system anyways?
Covenant issues 2.0, sick.
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Some people don’t want to do mythic +?
There are a ton of raiders who do not like it but do it for the weekly.
And again 3ilvls is nothing and also if 3ilvls is enough for you to do or not to do the content you very likely did not want to do the content in the first place.